The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it.
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@jonny imho those 5 people are worth making things for! just not these things, not this way
@tael
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RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955
The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.
@jonny why does the guy think we would play his game when we could just make a team of agents to play it for us
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RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955
The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.
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RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955
The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.
@jonny I mean, that’s 10 more people than are playing any game that I’ve written, but I did those in college, and still managed to pay less to create them than this (if you count my tuition).
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Its always good when the 5 people who have invested significant proportions of their lives in your game are baffled and laughing at how broken everything is and need to constantly ask for a mods help to keep playing the game, the mod also being either confused or just an LLM itself
@jonny afaik the mods and DMs are all slopbots now yeah
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Its always good when the 5 people who have invested significant proportions of their lives in your game are baffled and laughing at how broken everything is and need to constantly ask for a mods help to keep playing the game, the mod also being either confused or just an LLM itself
reading his website now and lol:
"I built Wyvern as a user-extensible platform, so nearly all the content was created by volunteer "Wizard" world builders. That's where my obsession with Platforms originated."
i guess if your passion project is built on a foundation of uncompensated creative labor, a Multi-Agentic AI Workflow is probably an easier sell
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@jonny afaik the mods and DMs are all slopbots now yeah
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Its always good when the 5 people who have invested significant proportions of their lives in your game are baffled and laughing at how broken everything is and need to constantly ask for a mods help to keep playing the game, the mod also being either confused or just an LLM itself
Oh cool yeah my bad you can't zoom the page
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RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955
The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.
I'm into the "worried about his family" stage with Yegge.
He's used "addiction" in the past to characterize his relationship with chatbots, and described then as "energy vampires".
In this article he explains that he's hiding his usage from his wife, and that while the setup with a bunch of Google For Domains sock puppets would probably be a ToS violation for other people, it isn't for him because [
️]. Just casually calling out several diagnostic criteria for addictive behavior right at the start of his grandiose rambling essay full of esoteric terminology, as you do when you're definitely not in a manic state.
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Oh cool yeah my bad you can't zoom the page
Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:
(C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...
I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.
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Found it: every LLM breakthrough story reads like this old erowid story of someone who was addicted to taking LSD with nitrous oxide because the feeling that induced for them was that they were discovering the secrets of the universe:
(C/w in the story for self harm and everything else you'd expect in an erowid story)
https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=79725the more I explored the Nitrous reality the more sense it made - of everything. I was starting to feel that I understood the intrinsic nature of the universe ...
I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost guarantees arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.
@jonny the difference being the drugs actually work
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I'm into the "worried about his family" stage with Yegge.
He's used "addiction" in the past to characterize his relationship with chatbots, and described then as "energy vampires".
In this article he explains that he's hiding his usage from his wife, and that while the setup with a bunch of Google For Domains sock puppets would probably be a ToS violation for other people, it isn't for him because [
️]. Just casually calling out several diagnostic criteria for addictive behavior right at the start of his grandiose rambling essay full of esoteric terminology, as you do when you're definitely not in a manic state.
@eestileib
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@jonny the difference being the drugs actually work
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@jonny the difference being the drugs actually work
@Lazarou
I would say that when I have let myself truly sink into an LLM that the drug effect of it certainly "works" - it certainly induces a profound sense of accomplishment and getting things done. I have tread delicately but I 100% understand how easy it is to generate a feeling of constant rapid progress when you just let go -
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Its always good when the 5 people who have invested significant proportions of their lives in your game are baffled and laughing at how broken everything is and need to constantly ask for a mods help to keep playing the game, the mod also being either confused or just an LLM itself
@jonny I can confirm Dyana is a human, probably the most senior volunteer GM from what research I've done
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@Lazarou
I would say that when I have let myself truly sink into an LLM that the drug effect of it certainly "works" - it certainly induces a profound sense of accomplishment and getting things done. I have tread delicately but I 100% understand how easy it is to generate a feeling of constant rapid progress when you just let go@jonny I've heard LLM use to be likened to using Cocaine, and I can really see that.
My one experience with coke was "well this is great but superficial and now my heart is beating a lot"
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@jonny I can confirm Dyana is a human, probably the most senior volunteer GM from what research I've done
@tael
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@tael
I hope they get paid at least some stipend@jonny Hahahahaha
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RE: https://yiff.life/@tael/117033238015042955
The gas town guy has like 12 $200 Claude subscriptions to run like 20 bots to automate churn in a 20 year old game with literally 5 players in it. 10 if you count all the level 1 players who just came to grief it. This is the true endpoint of all this: spending thousands to make nothing for nobody.
@jonny fuck me. literally? that's *all* the players??
