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  • drewph@ieji.deD drewph@ieji.de

    @RockyC
    It said "this page asked for zero permissions." That's an outright lie. It asked to create a webGL context, which my browser (Librewolf) let me decline.

    And it got a lot wrong, including my computer type, public IP address, screen resolution (twice) and trackpad. So I'll sleep OK tonight.

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    #9

    @drewph Technically, Librewolf did the asking, not the web page.

    It doesn't matter that the data is wrong, only that it is unique and identifiable. They can still track you across websites and build a profile. I set Librewolf to its strictest mode, reloaded the page, and it welcomed me back to my second visit.

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    • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

      This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

      #privacy

      I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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      #10

      @RockyC hth do I have that many text-to-speech voices?!

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      • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

        This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

        #privacy

        I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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        #11

        @RockyC Really, anybody's is still impressed by that?

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        • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

          @GoblinQuester It doesn't matter if the details are wrong. What matters is that they are consistent. That allows them to build a profile and follow you regardless.

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          #12

          @RockyC True dat, if it is consistent ...

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            #13

            @mherbert @RockyC

            the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

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            • flying_squirrelog@mastodon.socialF flying_squirrelog@mastodon.social

              @mherbert @RockyC

              the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

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              #14

              @Flying_SquirrelOG @mherbert And if you use noscript, it doesn't load at all.

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              • flying_squirrelog@mastodon.socialF flying_squirrelog@mastodon.social

                @mherbert @RockyC

                the test on webpage doesn't seem to work with me. It just keeps reloading. I'm guessing its my browsers privacy settings stopping it

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                #15

                @mherbert @RockyC

                In regards to rockys test , a custom user agent was set but the original user agent showed. Then changed a setting, now it shows the custom.

                Thank you because otherwise would have never known about it.

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                • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                  @drewph Technically, Librewolf did the asking, not the web page.

                  It doesn't matter that the data is wrong, only that it is unique and identifiable. They can still track you across websites and build a profile. I set Librewolf to its strictest mode, reloaded the page, and it welcomed me back to my second visit.

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                  #16

                  @RockyC
                  So presumably the answer is to randomise things frequently - like reporting a fake resolution, a different platform, frequent change of VPN location, etc.

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                  • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                    @Flying_SquirrelOG @mherbert And if you use noscript, it doesn't load at all.

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                    #17

                    @RockyC @mherbert
                    Java is still running but have alot of other features in use.

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                    • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                      This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                      #privacy

                      I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                      #18

                      @RockyC Most of the comments are about the tool not working correctly or portrayed wrong. Yes it might be the case if you are into privacy and stuff but once think from a perspective of an average internet user with little to no knowledge about privacy. If you show it to them they will surely get interested and look into privacy.
                      Kudos to the developers 🤝 will surely incorporate this into our next awareness session.
                      Thanks for sharing

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                      • drewph@ieji.deD drewph@ieji.de

                        @RockyC
                        So presumably the answer is to randomise things frequently - like reporting a fake resolution, a different platform, frequent change of VPN location, etc.

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                        #19

                        @drewph That's what I was thinking.

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                        • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                          This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                          #privacy

                          I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                          #20

                          @RockyC aha this gives me a clue why some stuff is thinking I'm on a VPN and demanding I turn it off:

                          > Your browser speaks English, your IP is in DE, and your clock is in a third place. That's not a traveller. That's a VPN.

                          [narrator: that's not a VPN]

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                          • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                            This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                            #privacy

                            I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                            #21

                            @RockyC

                            many years ago I read that since so few people have a privacy extension in their browser, that if yo have one it make tracking you much much easier

                            LOL

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                            • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                              This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                              #privacy

                              I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                              #22

                              RE: https://fosstodon.org/@RockyC/117059376370160807

                              Hope this can be mitigated one day

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                              • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                #privacy

                                I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                                #23

                                @RockyC I opened it because I did not read the link: *kuber.studio/cookie/* kind of logical follow-up is the cookie?

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                                • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                  This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                  #privacy

                                  I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                                  #24

                                  @RockyC this site needs javascript to work. But i am sure some of this information does not.

                                  "You wiped sessionStorage, window.name, but localStorage, IndexedDB, Cache Storage still held the tag."(edit: later after waiting for the addon to actually clear it, it was just Cache Storage)
                                  Cookie Autodelete failed me? Turned out deleting cache storage was disabled, but enabling it is not fixing it so far.. It's also annoying because probably it might be done without javascript also? (like add a unique url to be cached and see if it is there?)

                                  Also my bubblewrap sandbox could hide fonts i guess?

                                  Bit surprised Librewolf has cross-site referrers on by default. I turned on letterboxing, it did get some info wrong based on that. (maybe for sites i like, i want to give referrers in order to promote them lol)

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                                  • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                    This is neat. A handy demo of how you can be identified and tracked across the Internet without a single cookie ever being set in your browser.

                                    #privacy

                                    I didn't set a cookie. https://kuber.studio/cookie/

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                                    #25

                                    @RockyC Thanks for answering the question that's been in my head for years.

                                    I wonder every stupid time I change duckduck to no AI and no other crap if it really matters. I also asked on AI something if selecting the button for no AI really stops it.

                                    NOW ... I keep reading there's nothing I can do about it (I'm no geek) but is there something we can do about it?

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                                    • rockyc@fosstodon.orgR rockyc@fosstodon.org

                                      @GoblinQuester It doesn't matter if the details are wrong. What matters is that they are consistent. That allows them to build a profile and follow you regardless.

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                                      #26

                                      @RockyC @GoblinQuester

                                      Very educational. Going through TOR, changing my view screen size and user agent, didn't stop it recognising re-visits and correctly counting the number of visits. How? As the site states:

                                      "On your first visit I stored a random tag, not in a cookie, but across localStorage, IndexedDB, the Cache API and window.name at once. I never learned your name; I just recognised the tag, and counted."

                                      Clearing my browser history finally made me into a "new" visitor.

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                                        #27

                                        @mherbert @RockyC That’s so cool, thank you

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                                        • benc@mastodon.hawaga.org.ukB benc@mastodon.hawaga.org.uk

                                          @RockyC aha this gives me a clue why some stuff is thinking I'm on a VPN and demanding I turn it off:

                                          > Your browser speaks English, your IP is in DE, and your clock is in a third place. That's not a traveller. That's a VPN.

                                          [narrator: that's not a VPN]

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                                          #28

                                          @benc @RockyC Yeah, I got that only for Swedish. Funny how some of the people online are *immigrants*. Sigh.

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