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  3. There is a built-in mechanism in Mastodon's server software which reduces how often you see the same post boosted again and again.

There is a built-in mechanism in Mastodon's server software which reduces how often you see the same post boosted again and again.

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  • vintprox@techhub.socialV vintprox@techhub.social

    @fishidwardrobe @FediTips If you want only that, you should disable boosts. Press the double arrows button ("Show settings") on top of the Home section and switch off "Show boosts".

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    #9

    @vintprox @FediTips no, no, no. without boosts this place is nothing at all. people don't understand that. boosts are what make the fediverse *work*.

    the expectation (rightly or wrongly, for better or worse) is that if someone i follow boosts something, i see it on my timeline at that point.

    maybe the fediverse is better off for this not being literally true! i don't know!

    but.

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    • vintprox@techhub.socialV vintprox@techhub.social

      @idiot @FediTips What you're talking about doesn't seem like a usual Home feed. What kinds of hashtags are those? Probably some overused general trash fire, so that's why spammers post there… Definitely report those.

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      #10

      @vintprox @FediTips I think I see them most often on #architecture where people post some very nice snaps of buildings they see when travelling, but then drop them on mastodon and pixelfed and maybe they have two separate accounts on each because of language or something.

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      • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

        @vintprox @FediTips no, no, no. without boosts this place is nothing at all. people don't understand that. boosts are what make the fediverse *work*.

        the expectation (rightly or wrongly, for better or worse) is that if someone i follow boosts something, i see it on my timeline at that point.

        maybe the fediverse is better off for this not being literally true! i don't know!

        but.

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        #11

        @fishidwardrobe @FediTips Ah, I understand THE concern. You refer to having a boost in chronological order as well. I see some value in such a setting, would help some people that really struggle with concentration.

        Boosts' reappearing nature kinda breaks through this constraint and have a life of their own. Meanwhile, getting creative with the time of publishing a post is nonetheless important to get a few more eyes to it.

        But I wish we didn't have to do this at all and just chillax: less boosts, more control over reading flow, schedule, where one stops reading and gets a neat scroll-around to catch up with what they missed while being offline.

        The way official Mastodon apps work right now is I have to scroll manually in reverse chronological order. And some replies don't ever make sense without seeing full thread, so why would I read them in reverse! Come on, Mastodon.

        Maybe I should just get used to Phanpy. Alas, its loading speed on mobile often leaves me in dismay.

        fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF 2 Replies Last reply
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        • vextaur@blog.taursnd.hausV vextaur@blog.taursnd.haus
          @FediTips @gabboman do we have this? It often seems like my timeline is flooded with the same post over and over again
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          #12

          @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @vextaur@blog.taursnd.haus

          Not yet

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          • vintprox@techhub.socialV vintprox@techhub.social

            @fishidwardrobe @FediTips Ah, I understand THE concern. You refer to having a boost in chronological order as well. I see some value in such a setting, would help some people that really struggle with concentration.

            Boosts' reappearing nature kinda breaks through this constraint and have a life of their own. Meanwhile, getting creative with the time of publishing a post is nonetheless important to get a few more eyes to it.

            But I wish we didn't have to do this at all and just chillax: less boosts, more control over reading flow, schedule, where one stops reading and gets a neat scroll-around to catch up with what they missed while being offline.

            The way official Mastodon apps work right now is I have to scroll manually in reverse chronological order. And some replies don't ever make sense without seeing full thread, so why would I read them in reverse! Come on, Mastodon.

            Maybe I should just get used to Phanpy. Alas, its loading speed on mobile often leaves me in dismay.

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            #13

            @vintprox @FediTips tusky gives me forward chronological order if i want it. (i do, as it happens.)

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            • gabboman@gabboman.xyzG gabboman@gabboman.xyz

              @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @vextaur@blog.taursnd.haus

              Not yet

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              #14

              @vextaur@blog.taursnd.haus @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @gabboman@gabboman.xyz

              I would love to have this be user toggleable on wafrn. I want the tumblr PvP posting experience.

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                There is a built-in mechanism in Mastodon's server software which reduces how often you see the same post boosted again and again.

                If you have seen a post boosted, boosts of the same post are automatically hidden from you until 80 other posts have passed through your timeline.

                This mechanism previously allowed boosts to repeat after 40 other posts. The developers recently doubled this to 80 other posts, so repeated boosts should be much rarer now.

                #FediTips #Mastodon

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                #15

                @FediTips

                Eighty, four hundred, whatever. I don't want to see repeats the same day. And that's still going to happen

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  There is a built-in mechanism in Mastodon's server software which reduces how often you see the same post boosted again and again.

                  If you have seen a post boosted, boosts of the same post are automatically hidden from you until 80 other posts have passed through your timeline.

                  This mechanism previously allowed boosts to repeat after 40 other posts. The developers recently doubled this to 80 other posts, so repeated boosts should be much rarer now.

                  #FediTips #Mastodon

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                  #16

                  @FediTips maybe it would be nice, if this number was configurable?

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    There is a built-in mechanism in Mastodon's server software which reduces how often you see the same post boosted again and again.

                    If you have seen a post boosted, boosts of the same post are automatically hidden from you until 80 other posts have passed through your timeline.

                    This mechanism previously allowed boosts to repeat after 40 other posts. The developers recently doubled this to 80 other posts, so repeated boosts should be much rarer now.

                    #FediTips #Mastodon

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                    #17
                    @FediTips it seems like Akkoma does not have this.
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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      There is a built-in mechanism in Mastodon's server software which reduces how often you see the same post boosted again and again.

                      If you have seen a post boosted, boosts of the same post are automatically hidden from you until 80 other posts have passed through your timeline.

                      This mechanism previously allowed boosts to repeat after 40 other posts. The developers recently doubled this to 80 other posts, so repeated boosts should be much rarer now.

                      #FediTips #Mastodon

                      vincent@wehavecookies.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #18

                      @FediTips nice feature!

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                      • vintprox@techhub.socialV vintprox@techhub.social

                        @fishidwardrobe @FediTips If you want only that, you should disable boosts. Press the double arrows button ("Show settings") on top of the Home section and switch off "Show boosts".

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                        #19

                        @vintprox @fishidwardrobe

                        The boosts you see in your Home timeline are from the people you follow.

                        The mechanism only comes into play if several people you follow are boosting the same post at around the same time. The idea is to avoid a situation where e.g. ten of your followers all boost the same post and you see it ten times in a row.

                        You can switch the mechanism off if you want though, it's at Preferences > Other > Group Boosts In Timeline (untick it to switch it off, then click "save").

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                        • vintprox@techhub.socialV vintprox@techhub.social

                          @fishidwardrobe @FediTips Ah, I understand THE concern. You refer to having a boost in chronological order as well. I see some value in such a setting, would help some people that really struggle with concentration.

                          Boosts' reappearing nature kinda breaks through this constraint and have a life of their own. Meanwhile, getting creative with the time of publishing a post is nonetheless important to get a few more eyes to it.

                          But I wish we didn't have to do this at all and just chillax: less boosts, more control over reading flow, schedule, where one stops reading and gets a neat scroll-around to catch up with what they missed while being offline.

                          The way official Mastodon apps work right now is I have to scroll manually in reverse chronological order. And some replies don't ever make sense without seeing full thread, so why would I read them in reverse! Come on, Mastodon.

                          Maybe I should just get used to Phanpy. Alas, its loading speed on mobile often leaves me in dismay.

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                          #20

                          @vintprox @fishidwardrobe

                          "And some replies don't ever make sense without seeing full thread, so why would I read them in reverse!"

                          You can see the full thread by clicking on the reply, and the full thread is shown with the oldest post at the top.

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                          • xchaos@f.czX xchaos@f.cz

                            @FediTips maybe it would be nice, if this number was configurable?

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                            #21

                            @xChaos

                            It would be, and it's been suggested by lots of people on the Mastodon Github page, but the developers don't seem to be keen on it for some reason. Possibly causes technical headaches that aren't obvious?

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                            • idiot@mastodonapp.ukI idiot@mastodonapp.uk

                              @FediTips it would be nice to have more generalized duplicate reduction.

                              Some people have multiple accounts and post the same thing with the same hashtags to all of them. Following one of those hashtags gives a couple of posts that look like duplicates, but of course they're not actually the same post.

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                              #22

                              @idiot

                              I'm not sure why they are posting 100% identical content from different accounts on the same network? Possibly they don't realise that posts from different servers end up on the same feeds of their followers?

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                              • allpoints@mstdn.socialA allpoints@mstdn.social

                                @FediTips What I'd like to see is a feature to ignore self-boosts from accounts I follow. I've looked but haven't see such a thing. Have I simply missed it?

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                                #23

                                @allpoints

                                There's nothing specifically about self-boosts (which are usually just used to reach different time zones), but you can hide all of an account's boosts if you want: https://fedi.tips/blocking-and-muting-on-the-fediverse/#JustBoosts

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                                • btel@mastodon.socialB btel@mastodon.social

                                  @FediTips oh, great! are the repetitions suppressed only if I haven't seen the post? Or do the boosts simply appear every ~80 posts in my feed (visualised or not)?

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                                  #24

                                  @btel

                                  It's the second option, the boosts are allowed to repeat (if someone you follow boosts them) after 80 other posts have scrolled through your timeline.

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                                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                    @idiot

                                    I'm not sure why they are posting 100% identical content from different accounts on the same network? Possibly they don't realise that posts from different servers end up on the same feeds of their followers?

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                                    #25

                                    @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @idiot@mastodonapp.uk I think some people are used to having to crosspost on Instagram + Twitter for example, so if they have both pixelfed and mastodon they may think it's the same thing where they need to post on both separately? maybe different followers on each too

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                                    • mikaiah@sakurajima.socialM mikaiah@sakurajima.social

                                      @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @idiot@mastodonapp.uk I think some people are used to having to crosspost on Instagram + Twitter for example, so if they have both pixelfed and mastodon they may think it's the same thing where they need to post on both separately? maybe different followers on each too

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                                      #26

                                      @mikaiah @idiot

                                      Yeah, that's definitely possible, they might not realise posts from different Fediverse platforms are all entering the same feeds and search results.

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        @vintprox @fishidwardrobe

                                        "And some replies don't ever make sense without seeing full thread, so why would I read them in reverse!"

                                        You can see the full thread by clicking on the reply, and the full thread is shown with the oldest post at the top.

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                                        #27

                                        @FediTips @fishidwardrobe The thing remains, it will not eliminate the need to scroll through them in the Home timeline.

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                                          #28

                                          @kauer @vintprox @FediTips although, is that because people have replies set to unlisted? i do that. it's considered polite by some. if i reply to a toot it usually doesn't turn up on timeline unless you click on the thread — because i don't want to spam folks' timelines with "sure", "not what i meant" or "lol".

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