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Most city dwellers don't know how much of the night sky has already been stolen by billionaires, because poorly planned, wasteful city lights have already drowned out the stars for them.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

    For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

    Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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    #92

    @sundogplanets Dolly Sods, WV. Hard to get a clear night sky sometimes in Appalachia, but this one is well worth it. Occasional viewing of the northern lights from there, too.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

      For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

      Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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      #93

      @sundogplanets Savary Island, BC, a small sandbar island with no electricity. It was Perseid meteor season and I was nightswimming in the ocean with phosphorescence. Shooting stars above, glowing trails from fish below, floating in the ocean, everything very sparkly. I felt extremely small in a good way

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

        For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

        Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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        #94

        @sundogplanets Hard for me to compare, given the temporal differences, but I'll list four: Nantucket (2000), where Maria Mitchell was born and did her early astronomical work (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Mitchell), and which can have very clear skies, despite being a small island; Bryce Canyon National Park, Utah (2001), where the night sky view from the rim is spectacular; Death Valley National Park Nevada (2026), a formal dark sky area; and, circa 1980, a rural area south of Chapel Hill, NC, where I lived for a few years when in grad school. One winter evening, I don't recall just when, there was supposed to be a good meteor shower, so several of went out to watch it. The sky was spectacular, and one didn't have to look hard to see *lots* of meteors.
        (Aside: when my kids were in elementary school, there was supposed to be a good meteor shower. For assorted reasons, including timing and park operating hours, none of the nearby parks were suitable. I was living in a densely populated area of New Jersey, with lots of light pollution, so the best available spot was the local schoolyard. When we got there, we saw that at least a dozen others had the same idea. A cop stopped by, wondering why there were so many people in lawn chairs in the schoolyard at that hour of the evening. I was far back, so I didn't get to hear the conversation, but I'm sure he drove away muttering about these weird people…)

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

          For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

          Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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          #95

          @sundogplanets When I was with the cadets in the middle of nowhere near Lachute, Québec… I was 14 I think.

          So many, many stars

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          • mfennvt@mastodon.worldM mfennvt@mastodon.world

            @sundogplanets We used to live in SW Colorado at 7200 feet altitude. The night skies were incredible. You could read by the full moon and it felt like you could touch the stars, they seemed so close.

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            #96

            @MFennVT @sundogplanets That's where I am right now, between Bayfield and Pagosa Springs, on a ranch surrounded by the San Juan National Forest. On clear nights the Milky Way is breathtaking.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

              For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

              Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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              #97

              @sundogplanets the outback of Australia between Mount Isa, Alice Springs, and Woomera is pretty amazing for dark sky. My experience was before mega constellations though.

              The eastern flank of the Sierras and out into some parts of Nevada, Utah, and western Colorado are also good. It's less good than it used to be due to everything in the sky.

              Some areas in Big Sur if you get up high above the salt air but not too high to get light spilling over from the Salinas Valley or Fresno are pretty good for California.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                #98

                @sundogplanets Tekapo for me too!! My husband and I are from New England and we went there on our honeymoon 7 years ago. The clarity of the sky + the new-to-me constellations was absolutely mind blowing (he traveled to the Australian outback once as a kid so I’m not sure how it compared for him haha)

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/117063592703392163

                  Most city dwellers don't know how much of the night sky has already been stolen by billionaires, because poorly planned, wasteful city lights have already drowned out the stars for them.

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                  #99
                  What I wouldn't give for the street lights to go out at midnight...
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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                    For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                    Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                    #100

                    @sundogplanets I'm not sure if it was 1993 or 94. My parents read there was going to be an exceptional perseids shower but it was very cloudy so dad took the car and we kept travelling further and further to find a good spot. A province and half later and we were in the middle of nowhere, at a dirt farm track between wheat fields, with camping chairs having a perfect view of the open sky. At some moments there were almost 15 meteors per minute.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                      For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                      Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                      #101

                      @sundogplanets Same on the first one! (Except it was 13 years ago.) It was exceptional. And to think all of our ancestors experienced that every clear night everywhere. It's really a shame that we've denied this to ourselves.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                        For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                        Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                        #102

                        @sundogplanets

                        My parents live near Burks Falls, just south of Sudbury.

                        While they were building the house, they lived in a cargo trailer on the property, and I went to visit a few years ago.

                        The milky way was absolutely spectacular.

                        That was the best view of it I'd ever seen, better than during the 2003 blackout.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                          For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                          Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                          #103

                          @sundogplanets We signed up for an astronomy evening in the Atacama Desert, amazing skies.

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Oh I should add to my own personal list: the multiple aurora shows over the past couple of years that I've been able to see from my own house! May 2024 and especially November 2025 were completely mind-blowing.

                            I found myself joyously whooping and yelling at the sky. I kept thinking of the Cree name for a really active aurora show, cı̂payak kâ-nı̂mihitocik, which translates to "the ancestors are dancing". It was truly an emotionally powerful event to bear witness to.

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                            #104

                            @sundogplanets
                            Ah, reminds me of a solo road trip I took from California Seattle to visit a friend... This was in 1997-98

                            I got to see Hale-Bopp and aurora borealis on the road

                            Plenty of both driving right at 'em through the empty parts of Norcal and Oregon

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                              For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                              Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                              #105

                              @sundogplanets
                              My backyard in Winnipeg, seeing the moons of Jupiter like a mini solar system for the first time.
                              I was fortunate to grow up seeing many dark sky’s so often wasn’t as perspective shattering. I enjoyed the Milky Way reflected in a lake, or watching the percieds at a lake edge like Moon Lake, in Riding Mountain National Park.
                              Staring up from the backseat of a car travelling at night across Saskatchewan is amazing.🙂

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                #106

                                @sundogplanets Sitting on various beaches in the Abel Tasman National Park, back in the first decade of the century before the light pollution from development crept closer - satellites were a rare and kinda exciting thing to see, but the big Aurora in May 24 was the genuinely life altering experience for me

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                  For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                  Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                  #107

                                  @sundogplanets Camping on the rim of the Grand Canyon when I was in high school. It was so incredibly dark and yet there were so many stars in the sky that it was almost frightening.

                                  The sky was nearly that dark when I first moved to rural Nebraska 20 years ago. I was able to take photos of comets, galaxies, and nebulae using just a regular camera with a tripod, I didn't even have a telescope. Now the suburbs of Omaha and Lincoln have grown so much that it's barely better than when I lived in Southern California.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                    For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                    Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                    #108

                                    @sundogplanets It wasn’t the biggest or most auroratastic, but I remember being at a friend’s cottage just outside North Bay, Ontario 20+ years ago, and seeing the Milky Way for the first time. First time I’d been anywhere approximating a dark sky.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/117063592703392163

                                      Most city dwellers don't know how much of the night sky has already been stolen by billionaires, because poorly planned, wasteful city lights have already drowned out the stars for them.

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                                      #109

                                      @sundogplanets @catsalad @ariadne I camp at sites off the side of a highway 20mi from major metropolitan areas and can see them with the naked eye

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                        For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                        Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                        #110

                                        @sundogplanets walking to the barn every night for the late horse feeding, Skull Valley AZ, watching the parade.

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                          For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                          Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                          #111

                                          @sundogplanets when I was furloughed from work in 2020 and on my ~hmm where should I remake my life tour~ my partner pulled over off highway 50 near absolutely middle of nowhere, Cimmaron Colorado

                                          after letting my eyes adjust, it was my first time not seeing fuzzy I think that's the milky way but actual holy shit that's the milky way, dazzling. I have not wanted to live somewhere I couldn't get that since.

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