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  3. Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT.

Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

    Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

    https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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    #12

    @sundogplanets faster than light. i would never use a satteliite network. i go straight to the internet back-bone and i like copper.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

      Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

      https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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      #13

      @sundogplanets so thats how they'll justify their valuation.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

        Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

        https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

        burritosommelier@techhub.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #14

        @sundogplanets I honestly wonder when we’ll cross the tipping point and see the Kessler syndrome in action…

        To save the curios a search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

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        • burritosommelier@techhub.socialB burritosommelier@techhub.social

          @sundogplanets I honestly wonder when we’ll cross the tipping point and see the Kessler syndrome in action…

          To save the curios a search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

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          #15

          @BurritoSommelier We're already in Kessler syndrome at many altitudes. It's just the timescale between collisions is slow (for now)

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          • lisp1984@mastodon.socialL lisp1984@mastodon.social

            @sundogplanets faster than light. i would never use a satteliite network. i go straight to the internet back-bone and i like copper.

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            #16

            @lisp1984 @sundogplanets

            Copper is great except when it gets stolen.

            We can't have nice things any more : -(

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            • bjb@fosstodon.orgB bjb@fosstodon.org

              @lisp1984 @sundogplanets

              Copper is great except when it gets stolen.

              We can't have nice things any more : -(

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              #17

              @bjb @sundogplanets i am not a scrapper but i know what you are talking about. that copper line kept a constant signal with the phone copany during power outages. using voice over ip is slow. a cell phone can not always connect to a tower.
              verizon did a lot of damage to me.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                #18

                @sundogplanets but how else can one satellite talk to another that's much closer to reduce latency?

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                  Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                  https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

                  tehstu@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #19

                  @sundogplanets And as a complete aside, I see from the comments and distribution of votes that Ars article comments are to continue to be avoided. I mistakenly assumed there would be a promoted or well regarded comment against this situation.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                    Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                    https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                    #20

                    @sundogplanets This is the space equivalent of telco companies hanging extremely large/heavy bundles of wire along power utility pole infrastructure... and then the poles break under pressure... and the telco blames the power company.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                      Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                      https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                      #21

                      @sundogplanets According to Wikipedia: "Starlink Services, LLC is a telecommunications subsidiary of the American spaceflight company SpaceX..."

                      SOMEBODY needs to coordinate all of the satellites that we exclusively control. 😅

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                      • tehstu@hachyderm.ioT tehstu@hachyderm.io

                        @sundogplanets And as a complete aside, I see from the comments and distribution of votes that Ars article comments are to continue to be avoided. I mistakenly assumed there would be a promoted or well regarded comment against this situation.

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                        #22

                        @tehstu @sundogplanets space ars is a weird bubble that likes to pretend "space cool" is enough to ignore everything else about elon

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                          Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                          https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                          #23

                          @sundogplanets Sooooo… obviously this is a fucking disaster, but how in the hell do we *undo* this bullshit without creating more of a problem (ie, blowing them up would be bad, deorbiting them would probably also be bad, etc)?

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                          • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

                            @sundogplanets Sooooo… obviously this is a fucking disaster, but how in the hell do we *undo* this bullshit without creating more of a problem (ie, blowing them up would be bad, deorbiting them would probably also be bad, etc)?

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                            #24

                            @octothorpe @sundogplanets We need that Jewish space laser.

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              @sundogplanets We should rebrand SpaceX™️ == SpaceTrash™️

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                              #25

                              @stux @sundogplanets 🙌
                              Or SpaceXcrement™️ will do too?

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                @BurritoSommelier We're already in Kessler syndrome at many altitudes. It's just the timescale between collisions is slow (for now)

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                                #26

                                @sundogplanets I watched this last night and one interviewee said basically the same thing - effectively that there’s enough up there already that it’s just a matter of time now

                                https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/space-wars/

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                                  Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                                  https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                                  #27

                                  @sundogplanets Suddenly, it all makes sense now.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                                    Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                                    https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                                    #28

                                    @sundogplanets
                                    Soon, if not already, they will demand that other satellites, including geo-stationary ones, not interfere with Starlink transmission/spectrum. After all, the FCC is in their pocket.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                                      Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                                      https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                                      #29

                                      @sundogplanets It's 2026 so I think we've got plenty of evidence that no one is going to stop this jackass with the "rule of law" or "public shaming". That hypothesis is well and truly invalidated.

                                      So what's next? Blowing up SpaceX facilities, or Musk's jets, using drones?

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                                        Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                                        https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                                        #30

                                        @sundogplanets if a collision does happen that causes Kessler syndrome and assuming shrapnel that can't be tracked is created, is there some minimum amount of time that all* the subsequent space trash will fall out of LEO. Is there a significant risk that it goes to higher orbit?

                                        * Or enough that normal probability rules for safety apply

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                                        • akasci@fosstodon.orgA akasci@fosstodon.org

                                          @sundogplanets
                                          Soon, if not already, they will demand that other satellites, including geo-stationary ones, not interfere with Starlink transmission/spectrum. After all, the FCC is in their pocket.

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                                          #31

                                          @AkaSci 😬

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