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  3. The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

    Thank you for your support!

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    apnoe_soeren@mastodon.social
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    #70

    @fdroidorg @marcprux #e_mydata e/os is one of the aswers.

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    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

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      dei@is.nota.live
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      #71

      @techlore please make a video about it!

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      • izzyondroid@floss.socialI izzyondroid@floss.social

        @fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

        This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

        celeduc@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #72

        @IzzyOnDroid @fdroidorg @marcprux it is really surprising that the @EUCommission is okay with Google locking down our devices, digital sovereignty what-what?

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        • fynn@digitalcourage.socialF fynn@digitalcourage.social

          @fdroidorg @marcprux
          I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
          Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
          Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

          m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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          m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyz
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          #73

          @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

            Thank you for your support!

            tourma@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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            tourma@tech.lgbt
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #74

            @fdroidorg
            Ugh, looks like I might be using /e/OS sooner than expected.

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            • fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
              @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
              2something@transfem.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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              #75

              @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

              The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
              1) Spyware and adware
              2) Spyware and adware
              3) Spyware and adware
              4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
              5) Spyware and adware
              6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

              I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

              Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

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              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                Thank you for your support!

                moin@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                moin@gruene.social
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                #76

                @fdroidorg
                Thank you for your amazing work. For me its time to switch to Linux in under 200 days.

                @marcprux

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                • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                  @fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social

                  The top grossing apps on Google Play in the U.S. are
                  1) Spyware and adware
                  2) Spyware and adware
                  3) Spyware and adware
                  4) Spyware and adware and rootkit
                  5) Spyware and adware
                  6) Spyware and adware and rootkit

                  I have a really hard time believing it's about "malware."

                  Also, how do you modify a phone to remove this restriction, assuming the manufacturer doesn't let you unlock the bootloader (as most don't)?

                  fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #77
                  @2something @fdroidorg @marcprux 1. I believe that it's specifically about stalkerware that gets distributed as sideloaded, anonymously signed APKs to avoid detection by Google Play Protect. I think this change will have a significant positive impact on the stalkerware market and result in a reduction in technology-facilitated intimate partner violence, making it a worthy tradeoff. Most open-source projects are not developed anonymously, and if developers don't want to get a certificate, nothing stops a third-party marketplace like F-Droid from building a signed, distributable APK for them. The same people complaining about this have already built the solution. "I'm altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further" just feels entitled and missing the point entirely.
                  2. I would specifically get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, because I want to run free and open source software on it, as I already have. I don't want other people tampering with my phone and requiring messing with the bootloader and performing a factory reset (which i would notice) to sideload untrusted apps is a security feature I want.

                  If you don't like it, try coming up with a better solution, or you know, try doing some work with victims of stalking by intimate partners to realize it is actually a much bigger problem for them than whatever spying Google Play Services is doing. Have a good day.
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                  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                    Thank you for your support!

                    cimb4@norden.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    cimb4@norden.social
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                    #78

                    @fdroidorg i hope @shiftphones has planned for this already

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                    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                      Thank you for your support!

                      yianiris@kafeneio.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                      yianiris@kafeneio.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #79

                      We don't have representatives, we live in capitalism. All those elected to run government represent multinational industries and their federation, banks and financial institutions. We are their enemy, they are not going to listen.

                      Unless....

                      We force them to listen

                      @fdroidorg @marcprux

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                      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

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                        paradox@social.tchncs.de
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                        #80

                        You have to know how to make a report correctly. It's not for average doomscroller.

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                        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                          @crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

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                          #81

                          @fdroidorg @crazyeddie

                          What @crazyeddie is trying to say: standing up for openness, freedom, and the right to choose your own tools only makes sense in a society where openness, freedom, rights or even rational discourse still have any meaning at all. The US is probably no longer such a society.

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                          • jsbilsbrough@mastodon.me.ukJ jsbilsbrough@mastodon.me.uk

                            @fdroidorg hey gang, I host @crossed, would anyone from the F-Droid team like to come chat to us about this and why this fundamentally breaks the Android promise?

                            marcprux@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            marcprux@mastodon.social
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                            #82

                            @jsbilsbrough @fdroidorg I'd be happy to chat. Message or email me and we can set up a time.

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                            • nicolaottomano@mastodon.unoN nicolaottomano@mastodon.uno

                              @fdroidorg @marcprux

                              Tagging @EUCommission

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                              jrp@hub.kliklak.net
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                              #83
                              @nicolaottomano Oh, that'll work. 😉
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                              • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                Thank you for your support!

                                fbinin@mastodon.fbin.inF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                fbinin@mastodon.fbin.in
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                                #84

                                @fdroidorg @marcprux
                                https://mastodon.fbin.in/@fbinin/116087580182508496

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                                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

                                  jay@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  jay@mastodon.gamedev.place
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #85

                                  @fdroidorg @marcprux

                                  If Google doesn't want to place nice, I suppose we have options...

                                  Huawei HarmonyOS: https://www.harmonyos.com/en/
                                  Samsung TizenOS: https://samsungtizenos.com/

                                  Perhaps an Android exodus would scare Google enough to backtrack on the registration agenda.

                                  #KeepAndroidOpen

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                                  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

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                                    oldherl@comfy.social
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                                    #86

                                    @fdroidorg@floss.social I live in China. We don't have representatives to contact. Even Google doesn't provide service to users here directly. Please do NOT show the useless header to users from China. I love F-Droid and FOSS in general but the header would be useless and annoying.

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                                    • es0mhi@tilde.zoneE es0mhi@tilde.zone

                                      @fdroidorg @crazyeddie

                                      What @crazyeddie is trying to say: standing up for openness, freedom, and the right to choose your own tools only makes sense in a society where openness, freedom, rights or even rational discourse still have any meaning at all. The US is probably no longer such a society.

                                      crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #87

                                      @es0mhi @fdroidorg I was really just asking what I should post to the "report a violation" form.

                                      I actually looked on the site some after and there's actually nothing. There's no way for someone in the US to petition anyone about this. Can send to congressmen to try to get it worked out later maybe... 😛

                                      The sad fact is there's no law being violated here that I know of. Can't report a violation if there isn't one.

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                                      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                        Thank you for your support!

                                        inaba@blahaj.zoneI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #88

                                        @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social i just want big brother not watching everyone's every move, holy hell.
                                        i only use g
                                        gle services because of how popular they are, while minimizing what ggle i use

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                                        • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                                          @es0mhi @fdroidorg I was really just asking what I should post to the "report a violation" form.

                                          I actually looked on the site some after and there's actually nothing. There's no way for someone in the US to petition anyone about this. Can send to congressmen to try to get it worked out later maybe... 😛

                                          The sad fact is there's no law being violated here that I know of. Can't report a violation if there isn't one.

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                                          #89

                                          @crazyeddie @fdroidorg

                                          Thank you for the clarification and apologies for my misinterpretation.

                                          I have no idea about the legal situation in the US. But perhaps the fact that you can see no ground for action against this unscrupulousness, shows what we are dealing with: a (capitalist) system that has become completely detached from the true interests of its members, unchallengeable and without alternative

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