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Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

    Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

    I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

    #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

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    #9

    @alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social

    This is bullshit. I'm blocking that server.

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

      Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

      I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

      #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

      joscelyntransient@chaosfem.twJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #10

      @alice hmm…how does one federate a slap across the face through ActivityPub? Can I send a glitter bomb through the fediverse? Can my instance throw a milkshake at Evan to tell him what I think about this behavior?

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

        Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

        I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

        #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

        accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @alice@lgbtqia.space @alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social What is it about the word ‘no’ that he doesn’t understand? And ‘stop’.

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

          Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

          I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

          #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

          zoe@shorky.gayZ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #12

          @alice@lgbtqia.space tech bros really don't understand the difference between access and permission. Or consent in general

          grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC 2 Replies Last reply
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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

            Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

            I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

            #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

            rupert@mastodon.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #13

            @alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social
            You blocked him, but he's still replying to you trying to explain why he's the good guy and completely ignoring the fact that if you block him he shouldn't be able to reply.

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            • angelicaura@transfem.socialA angelicaura@transfem.social

              @alice@lgbtqia.space @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @AltAfterDark@masto.thefword.club @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social

              fwiw, the tags you've shown 404 for me, while some others show up. So it seems he did delete them after all?

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              #14

              @AngelicAura that would be lovely.

              I wonder how many other Fedifolx would like their stuff removed? My guess is a lot.

              He could've headed this off by asking first.

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              • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

                @winst0nsmith

                AS much as I thought Evan's "Claim a hashtag (Issue # 50)" was just a troll, he seems to be going all-in on it

                Going back:

                "Sometimes people create personal hashtags that they are the primary or only person to use."

                Oh really. "the only person to use"?

                Who enforces that?

                His replies today:

                "No, it's giving people who feel like they have exclusive use of a hashtag a way to tell us "

                And this is interesting:

                "Is there a legal complience email I can contact to exercise
                my rights under the australian privacy act 1988?

                Send it to contact@socialwebfoundation.org"

                Yeah

                Send your "legal compliance notifications" to Evan and he'll take care of them himself

                He really is too, too full of himself

                Here: https://github.com/social-web-foundation/tags.pub/issues/50

                cc @alice

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                #15

                @FinchHaven @winst0nsmith @alice oh goodness this is really dumb. Sorry I did that wrong.

                #this #is #really #dumb
                #these #hashtags #are #mine
                #i #own #them #now

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #16

                  @NathanMurdock being forced into "followers-only" posting by someone else's lack of boundaries is a shitty user experience, and likely to be the eventual death of queer and BIPoC Fedi if we let it slide.

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                  • zoe@shorky.gayZ zoe@shorky.gay

                    @alice@lgbtqia.space tech bros really don't understand the difference between access and permission. Or consent in general

                    grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #17

                    @zoe @alice you have no fucking clue. I spend a not insignificant amount of time explaining user behavior and it's just like "... but how can we get AROUND that?"

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #18

                      @NathanMurdock sigh. Why do we still court these toxic mega-corps? They're abusive relationships, and will always tend towards the enshittification of user experience in search of more profitability.

                      It's like setting up Flock cameras in your hippie commune.

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                      • alex@pawb.funA alex@pawb.fun

                        @winst0nsmith @alice

                        He's one of the authors of the ActivityPub protocol, not some naive newcomer to Fedi - if anything, he's been around long enough (we're talking decades) that he should know better.

                        (Incidentally, he also should know better than to misuse hashtags, but that's a whole other thing.)

                        doug@union.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #19

                        @alex all the more unfathomable that he created such a service with no (documented) attempt at making sure the service is safe.

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                          Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                          I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                          #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                          toothpaste_sandwich@mastodon.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #20

                          @alice @evan I feel like I'm not completely understanding the issue here. These bots boost all posts tagged with a certain hashtag, right? One bot per hashtag. And that's all they do, right?

                          I assume the point of them is to make it so instances that the original post maybe isn't federating with, now also receive the post, right? But if that's the case, what's the issue? Are there instances you don't want to be able to see your post?

                          The point of a hashtag is to get more people to see your post, right? I ask this out of genuine curiosity, I hope I don't come across as "just asking questions" while downplaying your concern. That is not my intention.

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                          • zoe@shorky.gayZ zoe@shorky.gay

                            @alice@lgbtqia.space tech bros really don't understand the difference between access and permission. Or consent in general

                            crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #21

                            @zoe @alice

                            As far as I can tell, anything with #capitalists at the helm doesn't understand consent. And capitalism and sexual assault share a lot in common.

                            'Keep asking until they say yes.'
                            Or
                            'Do it anyways, and apologise if caught...and keep doing it'
                            Or
                            'Ignore criticism and keep doing it cause they cant stop you'

                            bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.placeB seedsignal@mastodon.socialS 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                              Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                              I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                              #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

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                              bitbraindev@mastodon.gamedev.place
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #22

                              @alice@lgbtqia.space @AltAfterDark @alice_watson@infosec.exchange @alice@masto.thefword.club @alice_watson@mastodon.social let's say nothing changes: is the only way to stop this nonsense to campaign across all major instances to get the tags server blocked?

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                @NathanMurdock being forced into "followers-only" posting by someone else's lack of boundaries is a shitty user experience, and likely to be the eventual death of queer and BIPoC Fedi if we let it slide.

                                contraindikate@zeroes.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #23

                                @alice @NathanMurdock This would also destroy the fragile and precious ecosystem of Disabled people/people with disabilities on Fedi. We use hashtags to speak with each other, to share life-saving information, to learn, to spread joy and courage. We shouldn't need to all follow each other to do this.

                                On Fedi, using "public" hashtags, we have the same kinds of conversations we would have if we were to encounter each other on the streetcar, in a park or at the doctor's office. We see each other. We share life-saving information. We admire each other's cute FFP3 masks.

                                I encounter ableism here, but it's similar to the ableism I experience on the street, when one ass-hat shouts nonsense because they're afraid of a person in a wheelchair existing.

                                What Evan is doing is providing a tool for mechanised hate, manufacturing a bigotry machine, creating a beacon, inviting a murder of bigots to swarm me on the sidewalk.

                                Do. Not. Want.

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                                  Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                                  I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                                  #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                                  ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #24

                                  @alice

                                  Do you consider this to be something you have given permission for?

                                  https://mastodon.social/tags/LearnLockpickingWithAlice

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                                  • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

                                    @winst0nsmith

                                    AS much as I thought Evan's "Claim a hashtag (Issue # 50)" was just a troll, he seems to be going all-in on it

                                    Going back:

                                    "Sometimes people create personal hashtags that they are the primary or only person to use."

                                    Oh really. "the only person to use"?

                                    Who enforces that?

                                    His replies today:

                                    "No, it's giving people who feel like they have exclusive use of a hashtag a way to tell us "

                                    And this is interesting:

                                    "Is there a legal complience email I can contact to exercise
                                    my rights under the australian privacy act 1988?

                                    Send it to contact@socialwebfoundation.org"

                                    Yeah

                                    Send your "legal compliance notifications" to Evan and he'll take care of them himself

                                    He really is too, too full of himself

                                    Here: https://github.com/social-web-foundation/tags.pub/issues/50

                                    cc @alice

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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #25

                                    @FinchHaven @winst0nsmith @alice this "claim a hashtag" kinda gives off NFT vibes. I should shut up otherwise I give some people ideas 😅

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                                    • matty@blahaj.zoneM matty@blahaj.zone

                                      @alice@lgbtqia.space I think you aleardy know but someone did request for it to be Opt-In on the Git Repo which unfortunately, Evan isn't taking it on board and still pulling the "Yeah... BUT, their post is public and they could.. blah-blah-blah"

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                                      #26

                                      @matty @alice here is my problem with the "it's posted public so it's for everyone to do whatever they wanna do with it" argument: there is something like an unwritten social etiquette in the fediverse based on mutual respect and especially on decency. Automating this all away for the sake of algorithms and reach is effectively throwing all that into the bin, removing the human factor from the loop. That's not why I joined the Fediverse...

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                                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                        Hey, Evan, this shit isn't okay. You and your bots don't have permission to share my communities outside of Fedi (or at all).

                                        Again, I didn't even know you were doing this, because you *didn't ask*—you just assumed you had the right.

                                        I know I blocked you and defederated all your projects already, so maybe one of your friends or bots can let you know you should delete these (and any other @alice, @AltAfterDark, @alice_watson@infosec.exchange, @alice@masto.thefword.club, and @alice_watson@mastodon.social posts).

                                        #ConsentMatters #NoBots #NoTagsPub

                                        orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #27
                                        @alice@lgbtqia.space
                                        And Evan is the Research Director at Social Web Foundation, with tags.pub operated by Social Web Foundation.
                                        https://socialwebfoundation.org/2026/06/28/unsubscribing-tags-pub-from-open-registration-relays/
                                        Tells us a lot about what Social Web Foundation is😬
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                                        • toothpaste_sandwich@mastodon.nlT toothpaste_sandwich@mastodon.nl

                                          @alice @evan I feel like I'm not completely understanding the issue here. These bots boost all posts tagged with a certain hashtag, right? One bot per hashtag. And that's all they do, right?

                                          I assume the point of them is to make it so instances that the original post maybe isn't federating with, now also receive the post, right? But if that's the case, what's the issue? Are there instances you don't want to be able to see your post?

                                          The point of a hashtag is to get more people to see your post, right? I ask this out of genuine curiosity, I hope I don't come across as "just asking questions" while downplaying your concern. That is not my intention.

                                          alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #28

                                          @toothpaste_sandwich you can see the whole ordeal here: https://lgbtqia.space/@alice/116825829843438277

                                          The bottom line was that @evan@cosocial.ca assumed consent to slurp up my work (in this case a personal hashtag I use for my nude photos...and my posts containing said photos) and share it in a different context.

                                          Also, I have discoverability settings turned off for sites outside of Fedi (and my instance actively blocks domains like X, Threads, Facebook, and BlueSky)—which Evan seems to be in bed with. So when his site was collecting and sharing my naked body with search engines (without asking), that was a gross violation of my consent.

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