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  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

    New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like?

    Every “AI” tool is missing critical features that you would need if you wanted to do real work with them. What would those look like, if they existed?

    https://blog.glyph.im/2026/09/serious-ai-product.html

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    @glyph Sometimes, in the middle of one of your delicious threads, I recall that I started following you after "I Think I'm Done Thinking About genAI For Now" and how I'm glad that turned out to be a lie.

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    • jdp23@neuromatch.socialJ jdp23@neuromatch.social

      @glyph totally agree about how bots shouldn't be allowed ot use first-person language. In the last Washington state legislative session, there was a bill prohibiting chatbots from using several manipulative techniques with minors, and I pointed out that using first-person language was even more manipulative than the techniques they were banning so they really should include that as well. For that matter I also suggested that only prohibiting applying these techniques to minors legitimized applying them to seniors, adults with mental health problems and other vulnerable groups, so the extensions should apply to everybody -- and several researches who had done studies on the harms of AI chatbots also suggested that. But no. It's almost as if they were more concerned about looking like they were doing something to reduce harms than about actually doing something to reduce harms.

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      @jdp23 @glyph first step would be a law to forbid giving them human names. I'm so bothered every time I hear "claude told me" "did you have a look at the analysis made by claude"

      Fuck that shit, man.

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      • anne@precise.spaceA anne@precise.space

        @glyph I like this post a lot. I have one minor piece of feedback if you'd like to hear it, if not feel free to ignore.

        One mitigation you suggest is an in house therapist at companies to check for AI-usage-related health issues. As someone who has been in therapy outside of work I'm skeptical of this as the solution. I suspect you're looking for an analogy to an in house doctor for diagnosis of physical injuries. If that's what you mean (a) you probably mean psychologist rather than therapist but (b) I don't trust my employer with that knowledge of myself anyway, as the incentives are misaligned, and maybe something like worker's comp is the model to go for.

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        @anne I did not so much mean that this is the best way to do it, as I meant that doing SOMETHING like this would indicate a level of seriousness about the problem. There are plenty of other mental health supports they could attempt instead. But instead of that, we have … nothing. I have yet to hear of a single org offering specific mental health resources along with an AI mandate.

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        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

          New Blog: What Would A Serious AI Product Look Like?

          Every “AI” tool is missing critical features that you would need if you wanted to do real work with them. What would those look like, if they existed?

          https://blog.glyph.im/2026/09/serious-ai-product.html

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          #24

          @glyph excellent post. I love how your description of how results should be presented for research is almost exactly what Google search looked like 10 years ago: a list of links with relevant excerpts, no faulty "summaries".

          One problem that persists in this use case is bias, but regular old search had the same problem (it didn't have other problems like energy use to the same degree).

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          • jdp23@neuromatch.socialJ jdp23@neuromatch.social

            @glyph totally agree about how bots shouldn't be allowed ot use first-person language. In the last Washington state legislative session, there was a bill prohibiting chatbots from using several manipulative techniques with minors, and I pointed out that using first-person language was even more manipulative than the techniques they were banning so they really should include that as well. For that matter I also suggested that only prohibiting applying these techniques to minors legitimized applying them to seniors, adults with mental health problems and other vulnerable groups, so the extensions should apply to everybody -- and several researches who had done studies on the harms of AI chatbots also suggested that. But no. It's almost as if they were more concerned about looking like they were doing something to reduce harms than about actually doing something to reduce harms.

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            #25

            @jdp23 @glyph I think we should also point out that adults who know better but want to keep their jobs are forced into being treated like this too

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