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Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

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  • karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.social

    @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber And how should they without adults im their lifes teaching them. The Art of Introducing Kids to Networked Turing Machines...

    feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #11

    @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

    well throughout their teenage years and into young adulthood kids certainly manage to learn about things their parents didn't teach them.. the naughtier or more taboo the better, in many cases. Children have brains. They simply refuse to use them. If you doubt that teenagers have active will, try telling one they are wrong about something and see how the teenager responds. Or tell them they can't date or have sex or use drugs or listen to a certain type of music. Then you will see how much agency the young ones truly possess. How capable of rebellion they really are.

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      @FelisCatusDomesticus They're too disempowered to feel like they can do something about it, which is a different thing

      feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @cwebber information is widely available in society.. kids simply don't care. they are more interested in Bad Bunny's superbowl performance than they are about higher issues. This is nothing new. Young people's trivial minds. It's a form of self-disempowerment. A phase everyone must pass through on the way to mature adulthood. That having been said, this proposed law is ludicrous.

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

        Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

        There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

        cstamp@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #13

        @cwebber The big thing is the 3rd parties with whom the data is shared and who are likely sponsoring these bills.

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        • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

          @cwebber I dont observe anyone dropping corporate social media en masse or cutting ties with the megacorps that actively disempower them and have for decades

          neatchee@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber allegory of the cave stuff going on here most likely

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          • neatchee@urusai.socialN neatchee@urusai.social

            @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber allegory of the cave stuff going on here most likely

            feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @neatchee @cwebber

            you are not incorrect here..

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            • neatchee@urusai.socialN neatchee@urusai.social

              @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber allegory of the cave stuff going on here most likely

              feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @neatchee @cwebber

              a fair amount of horse management too, being done mainly by big corps, with government doing a bit as well..

              feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF randamumaki@mstdn.socialR 2 Replies Last reply
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              • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                @neatchee @cwebber

                a fair amount of horse management too, being done mainly by big corps, with government doing a bit as well..

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                #17

                @neatchee @cwebber

                Po Lo = zuck, elon, gates, jobs, bezos..

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                • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                  @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

                  well throughout their teenage years and into young adulthood kids certainly manage to learn about things their parents didn't teach them.. the naughtier or more taboo the better, in many cases. Children have brains. They simply refuse to use them. If you doubt that teenagers have active will, try telling one they are wrong about something and see how the teenager responds. Or tell them they can't date or have sex or use drugs or listen to a certain type of music. Then you will see how much agency the young ones truly possess. How capable of rebellion they really are.

                  neatchee@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18

                  @FelisCatusDomesticus @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber I think you are underestimating (drastically) the role of child development psychology and how the brain develops in determining behavior at various ages.

                  How the hell is a kid supposed to make decisions we expect from adults, when different discrete functional sections of their brains are not finished developing, and developing at different rates?

                  Children are not "fire and forget". You can't let them loose on the world and then act surprised when they do stupid, potentially permanently damaging things out of both ignorance and irrationality

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                    Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                    There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

                    freya@chaosfem.twF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #19

                    @cwebber holy fuck no. this is literally just pparents salty that their kids aren't buying into the shit parents are pushing, and even saltier that kids are, y'know, demanding rights

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                    • neatchee@urusai.socialN neatchee@urusai.social

                      @FelisCatusDomesticus @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber I think you are underestimating (drastically) the role of child development psychology and how the brain develops in determining behavior at various ages.

                      How the hell is a kid supposed to make decisions we expect from adults, when different discrete functional sections of their brains are not finished developing, and developing at different rates?

                      Children are not "fire and forget". You can't let them loose on the world and then act surprised when they do stupid, potentially permanently damaging things out of both ignorance and irrationality

                      feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @neatchee @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

                      this is where parental responsibility comes into the picture.

                      except in cases of gross incompetence, parents are still in charge of their kids, at least until age 18.

                      let's not forget all common sense here.

                      when the parents are as incompetent with tech as the kids, or even more so, then this is a different discussion.

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                      • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #21

                        @gorlak @cwebber @demofox

                        exactly.. parents are in charge of their kids well being until the child reaches age 18.

                        let's not leave all common sense behind.

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                          Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                          There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

                          hashraydamon@me.dmH This user is from outside of this forum
                          hashraydamon@me.dmH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #22

                          @cwebber 20 hours (and on a weekend) is not enough time to rally the whole internet, give them a few extra hours)

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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                            Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                            There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

                            meadow@lgbtqia.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            meadow@lgbtqia.space
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                            #23

                            @cwebber
                            I'm sure none of the employees of these companies are child sex predators with access to addresses of their preferred children. No... There's no way this could be used to hurt the children. /s

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              @FelisCatusDomesticus They're too disempowered to feel like they can do something about it, which is a different thing

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                              #24

                              @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus The kids grew up in a panopticon. I am sorry, but it is true.

                              The ONLY way we get them to push back is if we can show them that not only is there an alternative, but it is one that a person can thrive in.

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                @FelisCatusDomesticus That's just not true

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                                #25

                                @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus true, high schoolers are walking out coast to coast so often I see it in the headlines at least every couple of weeks

                                What's changed is that we all know our "representitives" don't care and won't listen

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                                  Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                                  There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

                                  fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF This user is from outside of this forum
                                  fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #26

                                  @cwebber times like these make me glad that I don't ever throw away working computer hardware. My 15 year old paranoia is paying off for reasons I couldn't have anticipated. The ram in that broken laptop's probably worth something these days

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                                  • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @cwebber I dont observe anyone dropping corporate social media en masse or cutting ties with the megacorps that actively disempower them and have for decades

                                    fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #27

                                    @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber you can't exactly do that individually on a dime like that

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                                    • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @cwebber information is widely available in society.. kids simply don't care. they are more interested in Bad Bunny's superbowl performance than they are about higher issues. This is nothing new. Young people's trivial minds. It's a form of self-disempowerment. A phase everyone must pass through on the way to mature adulthood. That having been said, this proposed law is ludicrous.

                                      fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #28

                                      @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber I didn't have a "trivial mind" at that age

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                                        #29

                                        @gorlak @cwebber @demofox what is considered "porn" here? And who decides? Moms for liberty? What's the appeal process like for wrongful classification?

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                                        • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                          @cwebber The big thing is the 3rd parties with whom the data is shared and who are likely sponsoring these bills.

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                                          #30

                                          @CStamp @cwebber

                                          The claim by the Colorado state legislators concerned is that this is designed to avoid sharing anything with 3rd parties.

                                          They could simply oppose age verification software as the massive privacy violation that it is instead.

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