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  3. If it weren't for Democrats, most of America would starve.

If it weren't for Democrats, most of America would starve.

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  • hadeny@mastodon.socialH hadeny@mastodon.social

    @DemocracyMattersALot that doesn’t surprise me in the slightest, I am curious about the numbers and statistics though. Do you have sources we can look at for more information? Is there a credit to someone who made this graphic?

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    @hadeny @DemocracyMattersALot NDakota being a donor state seems a wee bit sus to me

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    • democracymattersalot@mstdn.socialD democracymattersalot@mstdn.social

      If it weren't for Democrats, most of America would starve.

      #NoRepublicansEverAgain #WelfareQueens #USPol

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      #29

      @DemocracyMattersALot yet these MAGA idiots would starve, and still praise Trump while blaming the starvation on Biden and trans people.

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      • events_images@mastodon.socialE events_images@mastodon.social

        @DemocracyMattersALot

        United State of America, not America.
        America is a continent, not a State.

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        #30

        @events_images @DemocracyMattersALot

        i've seen this sort of comment before

        in the English speaking world it is usually "the Americas" for the hemisphere and "America" meaning "the USA" in many places for a long time

        but in other languages indeed the term is "America" for the hemisphere

        that's the essence of the disagreement:

        translation error, culture clash

        myself, i don't really care

        but i'll watch these sort of arguments for entertainment

        there's more important battles to fight

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        • ryanprior@mastodon.socialR ryanprior@mastodon.social

          @DemocracyMattersALot this is absurdly phrased. Red State agriculture literally feeds the nation. Make your point without misinformation?

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          #31

          @ryanprior @DemocracyMattersALot

          red states have the republican political culture of "i got mine, fuck you"

          so if someone needs govt aid to eat, red state or blue state, that aid is mostly from blue states

          if the aid stopped, do you think the usual republican asswipe would gladly make up the difference? or watch the poor in their states starve?

          republicans have made it quite clear they'd just let the poor starve, even with great farm bounty close by. cruelty is their political platform

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          • hadeny@mastodon.socialH hadeny@mastodon.social

            @DemocracyMattersALot fair enough, my critical lens intensifies when stuff like that is missing, especially for graphics and images that could be AI generated

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            #32

            @hadeny @DemocracyMattersALot

            it's an old observation

            you can find many sources bearing the truth that blue states support red states (mostly)

            recent(ish) example:

            https://time.com/7222411/blue-states-are-bailing-out-red-states/

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            • zimzat@mastodon.socialZ zimzat@mastodon.social

              @DemocracyMattersALot @hadeny

              Using a more complex methodology but still relevant outcome: https://www.moneygeek.com/resources/states-most-reliant-on-federal-government/

              13 of the top 20 on their dependency score lean red, with different ratios depending on if calculated by GDP or total value. New Mexico, a blue leaning state, tops the list of welfare states.

              Even in sources that show a map of donor vs welfare states they're careful to use other colors to show the difference. The red vs blue coloring is pure propaganda.

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              #33

              @zimzat @DemocracyMattersALot @hadeny

              why are you calling it propaganda when you reiterate that it is true?

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @zimzat @DemocracyMattersALot @hadeny

                why are you calling it propaganda when you reiterate that it is true?

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                #34

                @benroyce @zimzat @DemocracyMattersALot they’re saying the coloring of red and blue states inherently gets people thinking of political party affiliation, when the data is supposed to represent contribution/receiving federal funding

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                • pixelpusher220@dmv.communityP pixelpusher220@dmv.community

                  @hadeny @DemocracyMattersALot NDakota being a donor state seems a wee bit sus to me

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                  #35

                  @pixelpusher220 @hadeny @DemocracyMattersALot

                  that's because of the oil

                  the Bakken Formation

                  so ND would indeed be like the other red states if that oil revenue wasn't there (and as such, is unlike the more well balanced economic activity in most of the blue states)

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @hadeny @DemocracyMattersALot

                    it's an old observation

                    you can find many sources bearing the truth that blue states support red states (mostly)

                    recent(ish) example:

                    https://time.com/7222411/blue-states-are-bailing-out-red-states/

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                    #36

                    @benroyce @DemocracyMattersALot right, I get that. I think it would be a better delivered message if it was constructed in a more thoughtful way (or not likely #aislop )

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                    • hadeny@mastodon.socialH hadeny@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce @zimzat @DemocracyMattersALot they’re saying the coloring of red and blue states inherently gets people thinking of political party affiliation, when the data is supposed to represent contribution/receiving federal funding

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                      #37

                      @hadeny @zimzat @DemocracyMattersALot

                      ah i see

                      right

                      "blue north dakota" doesn't make sense except on this map

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                      • democracymattersalot@mstdn.socialD democracymattersalot@mstdn.social

                        If it weren't for Democrats, most of America would starve.

                        #NoRepublicansEverAgain #WelfareQueens #USPol

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                        #38

                        @DemocracyMattersALot what if the blue states stopped to pay federal tax as it's handouts to the "poor". 🤔

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                        • democracymattersalot@mstdn.socialD democracymattersalot@mstdn.social

                          @hadeny

                          There was no source with this graphic. I like sources too. Would not have posted except that I've seen many studies over the years affirming this. Sorry!

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                          #39

                          @DemocracyMattersALot @hadeny Pretty much established by readily available statistics.

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                          • ryanprior@mastodon.socialR ryanprior@mastodon.social

                            @DemocracyMattersALot this is absurdly phrased. Red State agriculture literally feeds the nation. Make your point without misinformation?

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                            @ryanprior @DemocracyMattersALot Look at what’s grown in California. Not a red state.

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