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  3. The question is not whether you can create software using LLMs - you can - most software is just boring CRUD shit.

The question is not whether you can create software using LLMs - you can - most software is just boring CRUD shit.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    The question is not whether you can create software using LLMs - you can - most software is just boring CRUD shit.
    But you do pay a hefty price: In lowering quality (security issues, less maintainable), in skill decay in the people "guiding" the stochastic parrots, etc.

    It's not "can 'AI's create software" but "are we willing to accept worse software running more and more of our lives?"

    tante@tldr.nettime.orgT nausipoule@mamot.frN map@xoxo.zoneM 3 Replies Last reply
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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      The question is not whether you can create software using LLMs - you can - most software is just boring CRUD shit.
      But you do pay a hefty price: In lowering quality (security issues, less maintainable), in skill decay in the people "guiding" the stochastic parrots, etc.

      It's not "can 'AI's create software" but "are we willing to accept worse software running more and more of our lives?"

      tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
      tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Here's the thing: I believe that you deserve to have access to high quality products and services. You deserve to use products and services that are safe, secure, well-designed and not destroying the ecological, informational or social environment.

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        Here's the thing: I believe that you deserve to have access to high quality products and services. You deserve to use products and services that are safe, secure, well-designed and not destroying the ecological, informational or social environment.

        pikesley@mastodon.me.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @tante yeah but what if Some Guy's bonus depends on making it all shittier?

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        • pikesley@mastodon.me.ukP pikesley@mastodon.me.uk

          @tante yeah but what if Some Guy's bonus depends on making it all shittier?

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          @pikesley *points at everything* then we get this

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            The question is not whether you can create software using LLMs - you can - most software is just boring CRUD shit.
            But you do pay a hefty price: In lowering quality (security issues, less maintainable), in skill decay in the people "guiding" the stochastic parrots, etc.

            It's not "can 'AI's create software" but "are we willing to accept worse software running more and more of our lives?"

            nausipoule@mamot.frN This user is from outside of this forum
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            @tante LLM means the tyranny of shit.
            A very mediocre dystopia indeed.

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              The question is not whether you can create software using LLMs - you can - most software is just boring CRUD shit.
              But you do pay a hefty price: In lowering quality (security issues, less maintainable), in skill decay in the people "guiding" the stochastic parrots, etc.

              It's not "can 'AI's create software" but "are we willing to accept worse software running more and more of our lives?"

              map@xoxo.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @tante Thinking a lot about this. To me it boils down to code ownership. Which is yet another kind of responsibility/liability that is offloaded to machines that by definition can't be.

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              • map@xoxo.zoneM map@xoxo.zone

                @tante Thinking a lot about this. To me it boils down to code ownership. Which is yet another kind of responsibility/liability that is offloaded to machines that by definition can't be.

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                @map exactly. In a way accepting responsibility for the code one puts in front of people is accepting the connected care duties towards these people.

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                • map@xoxo.zoneM map@xoxo.zone

                  @tante Thinking a lot about this. To me it boils down to code ownership. Which is yet another kind of responsibility/liability that is offloaded to machines that by definition can't be.

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                  @map @tante even some pro LLM people see that: https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/2/13/the-final-bottleneck/

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