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  3. As a human rights lawyer representing survivors of domestic and sexual violence for 15+ years, I've learned a hard truth.

As a human rights lawyer representing survivors of domestic and sexual violence for 15+ years, I've learned a hard truth.

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  • ooze@wirejunkie.netO ooze@wirejunkie.net

    @johan_andersson @QasimRashid Not safe to harass and abuse women.

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    #58

    @Ooze @QasimRashid Certainly, it shouldn't be. Neither should it be possible to abuse the justice system for personal vendettas against innocent men. Nor should you throw around sexist statements like "men are unsafe".

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    • oafsalot@mastodon.socialO oafsalot@mastodon.social

      @QasimRashid Men aren't safe around men either. You know that, right?

      Also, men are more likely to die preventable violent deaths, be seriously injured by random violence, and die from preventable diseases.

      Statistically men are in more danger than women, every day, all the time, from everything and you only need to look into an OAP home to see who is outliving whom.

      In summary, feeling safe and being safe are not the same thing. Safety is not and can not be guaranteed for anyone, ever.

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      #59

      @Oafsalot @QasimRashid Yes, men are the real victims. The research is wrong. Your opinion is right. Poor victimised you. 🫂

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      • J johan_andersson@mastodon.social

        @Ooze @QasimRashid Certainly, it shouldn't be. Neither should it be possible to abuse the justice system for personal vendettas against innocent men. Nor should you throw around sexist statements like "men are unsafe".

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        #60

        @johan_andersson @QasimRashid I hear your pain. I am sorry someone hurt you and sincerely hope you find healing. 🫂

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        • ooze@wirejunkie.netO ooze@wirejunkie.net

          @Oafsalot @QasimRashid Yes, men are the real victims. The research is wrong. Your opinion is right. Poor victimised you. 🫂

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          #61

          "Real Victims" I mean if you start with a victim mentality, you'll always be a victim... I'm just aware of the demographics, population, causes of death, etc. The research makes NO comparison and provides no context, So the research isn't wrong, it's just half the story. Men die more often, more violent and more preventable deaths in EVERY demographic, across the West.. We can argue apples and oranges all you want though, the numbers just aren't lying.

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          • billjryan@mastodon.socialB billjryan@mastodon.social

            @QasimRashid Well Some Men Anyway

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            #62

            @billjryan @QasimRashid

            Enough Men That Any Woman Has To Assume Any Given Man So It Might As Well Be All Men

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            • ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systems

              @Timeless @QasimRashid what

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              #63

              @YKantRachelRead
              L

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              • verenarupp@social.vivaldi.netV verenarupp@social.vivaldi.net

                @maggiejk @QasimRashid What's 4B? Some kind of pencil?

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                #64

                @VerenaRupp @QasimRashid lol no it’s a Korean thing where women have decided not to date, marry, have sex with, or have babies with men. The Korean words for those things start with B, so the 4 Bs.

                It’s a women’s strike and the men think it’s to teach them how to act right and that it “won’t work” but in reality they’re not trying to change men, they’re just done with them.

                A black woman in NY started a West 4B movement but that seems to be more of an anti trans thing. They have this whole “not our crimes” thing where they claim trans women commit crimes that the government counts as “women’s crimes” and they get really upset trans women aren’t put in men’s prisons in California so I think West 4B isn’t 4B at all, it’s just using the movement to be cruel and gross.

                But the Korean women are legit.

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                • J johnrohde@helvede.net

                  @QasimRashid Ok, I need to know what to with this information.
                  I am a male and have never hurt a woman.
                  Do you want me to self quarantine for the rest of my life in order to make women feel safe?

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                  #65

                  @johnrohde Yes, please.

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                  • timeless@mastodon.worldT timeless@mastodon.world

                    @YKantRachelRead
                    L

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                    #66

                    @Timeless con....grats on posting a screenshotted slop summary that has nothing to do with the parent post. I'm owned. owie ouchie.

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                    • J johnrohde@helvede.net

                      @QasimRashid Ok, I need to know what to with this information.
                      I am a male and have never hurt a woman.
                      Do you want me to self quarantine for the rest of my life in order to make women feel safe?

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                      #67

                      @johnrohde @QasimRashid

                      1. “you do not get a cookie for not being a rapist“
                      2. in real life this single response would get you kicked out of all friend groups I know, and explicitly labelled as a dangerous toxic dick.

                      Oh, and blocked right here right now, of course.

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                      • jkirkendall@wandering.shopJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #68

                        @YKantRachelRead This response is 🔥🔥 🔥

                        Thanks!!!

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                        • ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #69

                          @johan_andersson @QasimRashid oh no, whatever shall we do without men like you around, surely women everywhere shall mourn the loss of someone who sees the literal epidemic of unreported sexual assaults among women and goes "oh but maybe it's us who shouldn't feel safe around you"

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                          • ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systems

                            @johan_andersson @QasimRashid oh no, whatever shall we do without men like you around, surely women everywhere shall mourn the loss of someone who sees the literal epidemic of unreported sexual assaults among women and goes "oh but maybe it's us who shouldn't feel safe around you"

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                            #70

                            @YKantRachelRead

                            These dudes are literally crawling out from everywhere to make damn sure we all know they are the problem.

                            I’m thankful for small blessings, I guess.

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                            • J johnrohde@helvede.net

                              @QasimRashid Ok, I need to know what to with this information.
                              I am a male and have never hurt a woman.
                              Do you want me to self quarantine for the rest of my life in order to make women feel safe?

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                              #71

                              @johnrohde @QasimRashid there are multiple calls to action in the article. Step one get your head out of your ass and stop weighing in on the side of, "but I'm one of the good ones". Step two actually engage with the information you are presented with instead of making excuses.

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                              • J johnrohde@helvede.net

                                @QasimRashid Ok, I need to know what to with this information.
                                I am a male and have never hurt a woman.
                                Do you want me to self quarantine for the rest of my life in order to make women feel safe?

                                ciclop@mastodon.artC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #72

                                @johnrohde @QasimRashid "The men who rush to announce their personal non-violence the moment this conversation begins are doing exactly what this culture trained them to do—center themselves rather than confront the problem."

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                                • J johnrohde@helvede.net

                                  @QasimRashid Ok, I need to know what to with this information.
                                  I am a male and have never hurt a woman.
                                  Do you want me to self quarantine for the rest of my life in order to make women feel safe?

                                  truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #73

                                  @johnrohde

                                  "not all men"

                                  @QasimRashid

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                                  • truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #74

                                    @YKantRachelRead

                                    thank you.

                                    @johnrohde @QasimRashid

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                                    • ciclop@mastodon.artC ciclop@mastodon.art

                                      @johnrohde @QasimRashid "The men who rush to announce their personal non-violence the moment this conversation begins are doing exactly what this culture trained them to do—center themselves rather than confront the problem."

                                      truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #75

                                      @Ciclop

                                      yes!!
                                      @johnrohde @QasimRashid

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                                      • oafsalot@mastodon.socialO oafsalot@mastodon.social

                                        @QasimRashid Men aren't safe around men either. You know that, right?

                                        Also, men are more likely to die preventable violent deaths, be seriously injured by random violence, and die from preventable diseases.

                                        Statistically men are in more danger than women, every day, all the time, from everything and you only need to look into an OAP home to see who is outliving whom.

                                        In summary, feeling safe and being safe are not the same thing. Safety is not and can not be guaranteed for anyone, ever.

                                        truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #76

                                        @Oafsalot

                                        Diverting the topic from women, from the article. Nope . Not cool. @QasimRashid

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                                        • oafsalot@mastodon.socialO oafsalot@mastodon.social

                                          @QasimRashid Men aren't safe around men either. You know that, right?

                                          Also, men are more likely to die preventable violent deaths, be seriously injured by random violence, and die from preventable diseases.

                                          Statistically men are in more danger than women, every day, all the time, from everything and you only need to look into an OAP home to see who is outliving whom.

                                          In summary, feeling safe and being safe are not the same thing. Safety is not and can not be guaranteed for anyone, ever.

                                          thesunnyone@eldritch.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #77

                                          @Oafsalot
                                          @QasimRashid

                                          >>Men aren't safe around men either. You know that, right?<<

                                          So...you agree that men are the dangerous ones to be around?

                                          >>Also, men are more likely to die preventable violent deaths, be seriously injured by random violence, and die from preventable diseases.<<

                                          And why is that? Why are men the ones most likely to be in preventble violent situations? Why are men more likely to die by random violence? Why are men more likely to die from preventable diseases?

                                          (These are also rhetorical questions, becaude the answer is Male Supremacy/Toxic Masculinity)

                                          Anyways, maybe let women talk about the violence we experience at the hands of men (who, remember, you actively stated are dangerous to be around) without feeling the need to refocus the conversation on men being victims.

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