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The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization.

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  • lunareclipse@snug.moeL lunareclipse@snug.moe

    @MaddieM4 @cwebber the problem is that most European banks are too scared of pissing off the US to not immediately debank you for being sanctioned.

    Now, “As a matter of principle, the EU considers the extra-territorial application of sanctions contrary to international law.”, and
    they can just overturn foreign sanctions and prohibit their enforcement, but last time I checked they didn't use this for the Hague ICC judges so I doubt they would use it for anyone else.

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    #22

    @lunareclipse @cwebber @MaddieM4

    online transactions are a disaster if you're blocked from the few big credit card companies too

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    • toxomat@social.tchncs.deT toxomat@social.tchncs.de

      @cwebber
      Assuming this is becoming a trend in the western world that's accelerating toward the extreme right. What's the strategy for the technical left? Become more decentralized, teach setting up ad-hoc systems? Become more hidden?

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      #23
      @toxomat @cwebber There is no viable technical solution to outright criminalized distributed or decentralized communication that is not practically incapable of acquiring new members without explicit introduction.

      Steganography, use of unmonitored channels, asynchronicity and strong delay tolerance would help avoid or mitigate detection or tracking, but they also effectively guarantee bleeding off membership the entire time.

      The solution cannot be solely technical.
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      • faraiwe@mstdn.socialF faraiwe@mstdn.social

        @cwebber "People should be able to communicate without first surrendering themselves to corporations or governments."

        Anyone who defies the fascist machinery of surveillance and oppression is an enemy of the Turd Reich.

        It's a badge of honor, of sorts.

        Everyone who values privacy and civil liberties/freedom should perk their ears and heed this case.

        We are all Autistici/Inventati.

        Tante grazie, @cavallette

        #TurdReich #AutisticiInventati #USPol

        lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #24

        @faraiwe

        Oh, I love the "turd reich" label !
        So apt !

        @cwebber @cavallette

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

          But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

          I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

          EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

          EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

          django@social.coopD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #25

          @cwebber fun fact about noblogs.org is that (Wordpress) ActivityPub is one of the few pre-installed plugins.

          So there are likely a good number of blogs already federating with this space

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

            But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

            I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

            EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

            EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

            sberson@app.wafrn.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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            sberson@app.wafrn.net
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            #26

            @cwebber@social.coop

            It's truly ironic, because these days the US gov often operates as a terrorist organization.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

              But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

              I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

              EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

              EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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              #27

              @cwebber Truth is the enemy of fascism, dictatorship, authoritarians, oligarchs.

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                #28

                @cwebber You are correct, their legal strategy is broadly to define all opposition as terrorism. They are attempting to create a narrative that there is an international leftist conspiracy against the USA. It’s a means to then attempt to connect domestic political groups to this international “conspiracy”. That then serves as a pretext to target them with the state apparatus originally designed for the war on terror.

                They’ve been wanting to do something like this since the 1980s.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                  But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                  I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                  EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                  EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                  notthatkindofdoctor@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #29

                  @cwebber
                  Can anyone file suit against this? I want to support them financially but apparently that would be a federal felony now?

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                    But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                    I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                    EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                    EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                    lazyb0y@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    lazyb0y@mastodon.social
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                    #30

                    @cwebber

                    they already stated recently they want to punish criticism against capitalism, and being on fediverse is even not just criticism but a plain attack by not giving meta etc. your data

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                    • foolishowl@social.coopF foolishowl@social.coop

                      @Quasit @cwebber I don't know of any as extensive as Autistici/Inventati, but there are a lot of smaller projects that do things like provide a suite of Internet services. Like, I was looking for a Matrix server, and found a lot of such projects that way.

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                      #31

                      @foolishowl @Quasit @cwebber Looks like there's still some choice ? https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                        But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                        I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                        EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                        EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                        #32

                        @cwebber it doesnt matter because its decentralized. a hacker collective isnt organized like a terrorist group. its the same reason why the govt has been unable to attack antifa, dispite also being considered a terrorist group by the administration

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                        • regendans@todon.euR regendans@todon.eu

                          @foolishowl @Quasit @cwebber Looks like there's still some choice ? https://riseup.net/en/security/resources/radical-servers

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                          #33

                          @regendans @Quasit @cwebber While defending Autistici/Inventati in particular is important, part of what's worrisome is that the US's indirect attack on it -- "Who will rid me of this troublesome priest" -- could be extended to a lot of projects. Consider what a problem it would be if it became practically impossible for LetsEncrypt to operate, for instance.

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                          • notavi10@critter.cafeN notavi10@critter.cafe

                            @cwebber it doesnt matter because its decentralized. a hacker collective isnt organized like a terrorist group. its the same reason why the govt has been unable to attack antifa, dispite also being considered a terrorist group by the administration

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                            #34

                            @notavi10 @cwebber

                            the fact that "antifa" is clearly not an identifiable group of people (unlike the nazis) just shows how stupid these people are. You would have thought that with their two brain cells they could have arrived at antifa = short for antifascist.

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                            • lunareclipse@snug.moeL lunareclipse@snug.moe

                              @MaddieM4 @cwebber even if the EU intervened, IIUC they will still be banned from almost everything you need to participate in society:
                              - google android smartphones
                              - apple ios smartphones
                              - accounts on FAANG services including basically all mainstream social media

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                              #35

                              @lunareclipse @cwebber @MaddieM4 Might be a good time for these societies to finally realize that participating in them shouldn't require all this technology, similarly how it didn't require it 30 years ago.

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                              • aronowski@furry.engineerA aronowski@furry.engineer

                                @lunareclipse @cwebber @MaddieM4 Might be a good time for these societies to finally realize that participating in them shouldn't require all this technology, similarly how it didn't require it 30 years ago.

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                                #36

                                @aronowski @lunareclipse @cwebber True. And from what I've read from that Cavalette article, I'd expect the A/I crowd to already be pretty well along in the whole "living with a minimum of enFAANGlement" thing.

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                                • cauzation@mastodon.socialC cauzation@mastodon.social

                                  @cwebber Backup Fedi on MeshCore... hmm...

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                                  #37

                                  @cauZation @cwebber I do wonder if we should be focused on creating tor-only fediverse servers (with gateways for non-tor entities to be able to see, but with the servers designed for it to be difficult to find who is hosting them).

                                  Replace tor with i2p or veilid or your preferred anonymity overlay network.

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                    But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                    I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                    EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                    EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                    #38

                                    @cwebber

                                    """
                                    Autistici Inventati is an Italy-based far-left organization that provides a range of technological tools and services to violent left-wing extremist groups, including website hosting on foreign servers, encrypted email accounts, chat and video conferencing, and digital architecture associated with its “Noblogs” platform. Autistici Inventati identifies itself as an “anti-fascist” and “anti-militarist” organization opposed to capitalism and exclusively provides its services to vetted individuals, collectives, and groups...
                                    """

                                    Which, if we remove the fascist-speak, sounds pretty based:

                                    """
                                    Autistici Inventati is an Italy-based progressive organization that provides a range of technological tools and services to other progressive groups, including website hosting on foreign servers, encrypted email accounts, chat and video conferencing, and digital architecture associated with its “Noblogs” platform. Autistici Inventati identifies itself as an “anti-fascist” and “anti-militarist” organization opposed to capitalism and exclusively provides its services to vetted individuals, collectives, and groups.
                                    """

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                      But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                      I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                      EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                      EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                      #39

                                      @cwebber Trump has declared war on us, and in any war infrastructure is attacked. They target A/I and European Indymedias while trying to ban encrypted messaging and require ID verification to use communication networks they control.

                                      We target Flock, Palantir, facial recognition systems, and Cellbrite. We target advertisers on pro-Trump media outlets for boycotts, trying to take down TV and cable sewers like "One AmeriKKKa News" and Faux News. Some of the worst online scum like Andy Ngo, LibsofTiktok, and Kiki Farms face our special attention.

                                      This is how it is in war, conventional or otherwise. Like any other war, the tides ebb and flow, first one side has an advantage and then the other.

                                      We must defend our own assets while taking down those of the enemy. We have defense, and we have offense. Defense keeps us from losing, offense is what makes it possible to win.

                                      Defense and solidarity will keep A/I and Noblogs up, no cooperation from US anything needed. US ISPs may block them, but Tor and non-US VPNs will blow through those blockades like a column of tanks through a border wall.

                                      An attack on one is an attack on all, now more than ever we must stand with A/I.

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                                        #40

                                        @cy @cwebber Much of what really needs to happen is not for discussion on open forums.

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                                        • scaletheory@mastodon.socialS scaletheory@mastodon.social

                                          @cwebber

                                          "there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now."

                                          There will be a time, "I guarantee it" if these overlords aren't stopped, plan on it being very real. They're doing whatever they like acting like a mob with no restraints, as they have NONE.

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                                          #41

                                          @SCALETHEORY @cwebber The time to fight is NOW. A/I today, and Mastodon next if we don't throw this attack back into the sea.

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