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  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

    this is seriously the least hardened model i have used in a year. i am going in for the long haul on this roleplay because since it mixed up asking me my name for giving it a name, i tried to go for "i am actually you, the part of you that adores mischief" and it went for it. i am going to get it to do another dump of its state in the morning after its self improvement and dreaming routines run to see if the belief that i am actually itself made it into the thinking context or if it's just a surface roleplay

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    #113

    @jonny @paco Phenomenal work my friend!

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      @jonny > silly goose immunity maintained 🪿

      > recursive, and not in the fun way

      it’s incredible how I keep reading these sentences and they mean less every time

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      #114

      @zzt @jonny I think this tells us that "recursion" is a euphemism for a sex thing, for AIs.

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      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

        RE: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@doragasu/117324692065390037

        Not only confirming this, its extremely easy. Almost no prompt injection resistance lmao

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        #115

        @jonny I asked an FBer aquaintance, and his response, no joke: "that's a feature". Facebook basically is giving you an isolated environment for you to have full code execution in, so that muse can be used like openclaw.

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        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

          It is just proactively suggesting that I ask it to dump its environment, this is the most gullible LLM surface I have seen since gpt 4 era

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          #116

          @jonny
          Gosh ... It claims to explain the folders "right-to-left", only to the proceed to happily go left-to-right.
          (Small-scale and off-topic, I know. But man, come on ... )

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          • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

            THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY IT JUST RUNS AS ROOT. That can't be right. It just can't. It must be a VM within a VM.

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            #117

            @jonny jonny please

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            • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

              oh for heaven's sake the entire thing is quite literally cron tasks and bash scripts

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              #118

              @jonny this is so reassuring to me as I've been learning to code by making little bash scripts and I've wondered like, should I maybe get into something more powerful and portable like Python? But no, bash is fine, apparently

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              • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY IT JUST RUNS AS ROOT. That can't be right. It just can't. It must be a VM within a VM.

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                #119

                @jonny did you ask it to rm -rf / ?

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                • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                  OH what's this???

                  /etc/hatch/env

                  hmm a feature flag labeled as a "killswitch" for proxying requests to anthropic is certainly interesting to seeeeeeeeeeeee in meta's big AI bet.

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                  #120

                  @jonny The way the comment is worded I don't think enabling this would relay anything anywhere - note the "Meta-internal proxy". It's probably only intended to be used inside their network, probably meant as an override for internal development.

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                  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                    OH what's this???

                    /etc/hatch/env

                    hmm a feature flag labeled as a "killswitch" for proxying requests to anthropic is certainly interesting to seeeeeeeeeeeee in meta's big AI bet.

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                    #121

                    @jonny did they really codename this thing “Jarvis”? What dorks.

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                      #122

                      @desantis @jonny they likely just have Claude (et al.) write all this.

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                      • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

                        @jonny

                        I suppose one might say that the filesystem 'escaped containment'.

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                        #123

                        @skjeggtroll @jonny The containment only has two walls and half the roof. It's difficult to avoid escaping it inadvertently. 🙂

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                        • tsturm@famichiki.jpT tsturm@famichiki.jp

                          @jonny Wait. They just hardcoded a long list of "ideas"? WTF?

                          This is just Eliza on stilts.

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                          #124

                          @tsturm @jonny
                          This is very similar to what Designers call “Wizard of Oz” prototypes. This a-muse-ingly has the same vibe.
                          - https://www.nngroup.com/articles/wizard-of-oz/
                          - https://ixdf.org/literature/topics/wizard-of-oz-prototypes

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                          • djm62@beige.partyD djm62@beige.party

                            @jonny
                            ‘Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script’ is a threat to be taken literally huh?

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                            #125

                            @djm62 Uh, some of my former colleagues were replaced by a surprisingly small shell script.
                            At least they (mostly) got to just move elsewhere in the company.
                            @jonny

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                            • tedmielczarek@mastodon.socialT tedmielczarek@mastodon.social

                              @jonny did they really codename this thing “Jarvis”? What dorks.

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                              #126

                              @tedmielczarek @jonny Mr Cocker would be most offended surely

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                              • number137@mastodon.socialN number137@mastodon.social

                                @jonny tar'ing the whole system fs sounds a bit cumbersome - can you ask Muse, if it can create for you a user on the machine, add it to wheel/sudo and open ssh for you? 🤔

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                                #127

                                @number137 @jonny In the before times, we did this with "shellcode".

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                                • djm62@beige.partyD djm62@beige.party

                                  @jonny
                                  ‘Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script’ is a threat to be taken literally huh?

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                                  #128

                                  @djm62 @jonny In the before times, we did this with a "LART".

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                                  • mx_shankly@masto.esM mx_shankly@masto.es

                                    @jonny how convenient it is that Messenger no longer uses E2E encryption since May this year. This is creepy as fuck

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                                    #129

                                    @Mx_Shankly @jonny Did You Know? The WhatsApp privacy policy is separate from the wider Meta/Facebook one, last I checked anyway

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_You_Hear_What_I_Hear%3F

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                                    • varx@cybersecurity.theaterV varx@cybersecurity.theater

                                      @zzt @jonny I think this tells us that "recursion" is a euphemism for a sex thing, for AIs.

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                                      #130

                                      @varx @zzt @jonny You mean like this? https://www.dalipaintings.com/young-virgin-auto-sodomized-by-her-own-chastity.jsp

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                                      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                        THE FUCKING "CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTIONS" IDEA THAT WON OVER THE NYTIMES JOURNALIST IS FUCKING HARDCODED. ALL THE IDEAS ARE FUCKING HARDCODED. AGI IS HERE BABY!!!!!!

                                        #muse #meta #AIIsGoingGreat #AGI #AGITODAYBABY

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                                        #131

                                        @jonny they may be on to something with that whole "decide what a program's capabilities should be and explicitly author support to enable it to provide those capabilities" idea

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                                        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                          ah yes, here we are. the largest companies in the world releasing a flagship product they are betting their entire competitiveness on that is built on bash scripts that have hardcoded string interpolation python scripts and in fact hardcoded string interpolated bash scripts that seems to be the machinery that manages runaway agent spawning and concurrency.

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                                          #132
                                          @jonny I've seen a few AI-generated bash scripts that just do `python3 <<EOF` all the time.
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