The Minions of Avian Intelligence
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@zzt i already got that the Pew one was fear of AI destroying humanity, which is not one fucking place in the actual report
Okay, hey, that's me you're misrepresenting again. You've gone from arguing with yourself about something I didn't write in a thread to arguing with yourself about things I didn't write across different threads. Which is a choice.
I said that it did not call out different reasons for people disliking AI, so conflated people who disliked it for rational reasons and people who disliked it for doomer reasons, the latter of which are actively pushed by OpenAI and Anthropic's marketing because they drive investment.
My point was that OpenAI and Anthropic's appeals to investors are likely to be causing problems for them. The more articles in the mainstream news that repeat their 'oh noes, our AI is so powerful it might accidentally destroy the world' press releases that they push to make it look like their systems do something impressive, the more normal people will have negative feelings about their products.
The Pew survey asks if you're more excited than concerned or vice versa, it doesn't ask why you're concerned. It does ask about concern over AI resulting in fewer jobs, but it doesn't differentiate between people who are worried about AI overinvestment crashing the economy (resulting in fewer jobs) and people who believe the hype that it can actually do a load of jobs.
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@davidrevoy Sadly, people hating AI are just a loud minority, we have statistical evidences to prove it.
@Stem Bollocks!
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@davidrevoy Sadly, people hating AI are just a loud minority, we have statistical evidences to prove it.
@Stem @davidrevoy "WE HAVE EVIDENCES" Ok, show your "evidences" I do not believe you
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@Stem @davidrevoy you know it’s really weird to just make shit up about statistical evidence
here’s a recent pew research study showing that the majority of the US population doesn’t like AI: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/08/18/young-adults-in-the-us-are-increasingly-wary-of-ai-concerned-it-will-take-jobs/
here’s a pivot to AI article from @davidgerard that links a Gallup poll and a heatmap survey with similar results concerning opinions on AI and data centers: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/25/everybody-hates-the-ai-more-and-more/
whenever we run polls it turns out the majority of people hate this shit regardless of what population is being polled
it’s uhh fucked to come on mastodon and claim to have statistical evidence and then just not link it
@zzt @Stem @davidrevoy @davidgerard there you go, with your facts, on a platform where the doofus then can't just go "grok, is this true?"
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@zzt @Stem @davidrevoy @davidgerard there you go, with your facts, on a platform where the doofus then can't just go "grok, is this true?"
@patrick_h_lauke @zzt @Stem @davidgerard Also, maybe a nuance here; if you ask poeple if they are concerned by Google or Meta or GAFAMs; they'll probably say in majority they are "concerned" while having almost all a Facebook account and a Gmail.
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@davidrevoy When in doubt, deploy more booster sockpuppets. It's not like sentiment analysis can tell spam from actual data anymore.
I wonder how things are going back at the Amphora...these things *are* just terminals after all. Or how they're whispering into the ears of kings and courtiers.
@KronoGarrett Hehe, I never had the time or the panel count to establish properly the relation to the Amphora of Great Intelligence; but this episode https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/035__Avian-Intelligence.html had a clue about it. Yes, the Parrot are just terminals. Maybe I'll can set this up in next comics, but I'm also considering pausing a bit on the Avian Intelligence series, it's great, but the theme is also exhausting for me
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@davidrevoy @light More direct evidence is we know they pay social media influencers to shill for AI
@davidgerard @light True. Even with my humble metrics, I receive offers via email like this, more than once weekly (refusing all/not replying, of course).
It probably works for many content creators without the luck I have to have a monthly community support that make me live of it.
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@SmartmanApps @breizh @Stem So, according to your logic, Smartman, if we would re-run the US presidential vote here (constrain: only with voter who have a Mastodon/Fediverse account since more than one year to exclude bot and newcomers) we would obtain the same result as the one reality gave us? Right?
Well, statistic or not, I wouldn't bet on that even a single Euro.
@davidrevoy @breizh @Stem
@shironekoI consider this guy a minor Fediverse celebrity. In case it helps shape the way you handle him, you might want to check out one of these threads:
* The poll he ran that he's referring to: https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/117006976986454267
* Another thread which exemplifies his mathematical knowledge and attitude to views which differ from his own: https://dotnet.social/@SmartmanApps/115207044364101854
* Any other of his pinned posts with replies from other people.I would never want to instruct anyone in how or whether to discuss with someone, but I think there is a certain pattern across these different subjects that can help you decide.
Full disclosure: I issue these messages somewhat frequently.
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@shironeko True. Thank you Shironeko.
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@KronoGarrett Hehe, I never had the time or the panel count to establish properly the relation to the Amphora of Great Intelligence; but this episode https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/035__Avian-Intelligence.html had a clue about it. Yes, the Parrot are just terminals. Maybe I'll can set this up in next comics, but I'm also considering pausing a bit on the Avian Intelligence series, it's great, but the theme is also exhausting for me
@davidrevoy Yes, that’s it.
I’d bet. It’s just a fatigiung subject to deal with (and I still need to draw one of my bigger darlings stomping a hyperscale data center into a crater, or my computer werewolf tangling with a sparkly gradient blob monster representative of slop.)
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@davidgerard I blocked this fucker on sight by the way cause I don’t in fact have to listen to someone just make shit up but while we’re here let’s take bets on the response
- uhh nice small n study from pew research and gallup, call me back when someone serious does the work
- these are just the US, they don’t represent the world (which is hilarious cause outside of the US, AI’s even more hated, citation not needed)
- you’re lying, that study says people are “more concerned than excited” not that they hate AI (please call me when the survey does have a “I fucking hate this shit” option)
- well in my tech-heavy field it’s very popular (because your coworkers will get fired if they say they hate this shit and your bosses are savoring grifters)
- well actually this survey says *links some shit anthropic paid for*I'd like to know by how much more AI is hated elsewhere. I always find those US vs the world attitude surveys fascinating...
Possibly it's morbid fascination.
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@poleguy Hey, I had a couple on other places; but I'm bit lost at understanding it as an (now old) Y gen; please tell me about it
@davidrevoy that's the whole joke... Any time someone says 6,7 you say 6,7 move your hands and laugh.
Its terrible and the kids have already moved on.
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@davidrevoy that's the whole joke... Any time someone says 6,7 you say 6,7 move your hands and laugh.
Its terrible and the kids have already moved on.
@poleguy Ha, alright, thank you for explaining! It's simpler than what I though.
I guess each generation has something like that, I can remember similar stuff while studying in the French schools -
The Minions of Avian Intelligence
Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/067.html#bonus
@davidrevoy "Sir! Our customers are not liking the new AI features we integrated this week. What do we do?!"
"DEPLOY MORE AI FEATURES"
Yeah sums it up
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@PyrexContainer Hey, first, Nightshade is proprietary and not even has a Linux release; so big red flag; and also unfortunately, it's a scam. The method was defeated a week after release, but I love the intent (not the method) and I'm impressed by the Press coverage they got, and how many non technical artist still think this "armor of paper" will protect their art of anything. There is a lot of needs of a psychological protection into this product.
@davidrevoy it is deployed by the university of Chicago, they're not the kind of people to hide malware in stuff, its probably due to the team leader wanting to turn it into a product or wanting patents, anyways it's simply just a noise tool with some hidden patterns, you could definitely do the same in gimp, i dont know about krita though
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@davidrevoy it is deployed by the university of Chicago, they're not the kind of people to hide malware in stuff, its probably due to the team leader wanting to turn it into a product or wanting patents, anyways it's simply just a noise tool with some hidden patterns, you could definitely do the same in gimp, i dont know about krita though
@PyrexContainer No, it's not just a filter, it's an AI regeneration of the picture with nudging at the pixels level some overall pattern to trick the AI labeling process. (eg. flag a cat for a dog picture). It's extremely costly in GPU resources compared to a filter like the ones of GMIC (Krita/GIMP).
Also, have you seen what happened to Cara over the past weeks? they were offering this type of poisoning as a service... 12 Million of artworks scrapped. 3 times. https://www.threads.com/@zemotion/post/DcAmokzlLWj -
@Eldeberen @davidrevoy @Stem @breizh
"I didn't knew that in real-life, DDG has a 60% market share" - ok, you're getting there. Now look at the DDG poll and see that the Fedi poll has the EXACT same split between pro/anti
"Or maybe fedi polls have *very huge* bias" - except when they don't, as we already know with the DDG poll
"That would only feed the troll" - Statistician is the word you're looking for
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@encukou Thank you for confirming, but great to know it will do for QRcodes!
It is on my to do list.
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It is on my to do list.
@doctormo @encukou
Good to know, thank you! I imagine it will be very difficult and require some fundamental modification at the text object level to receive effects like that. Right now, the only software I know that can stack effect deformation on top of editable text object is Blender (screenshot, eg. Wave Modifier on dynamic text object, multiline). It looks like "vector magic" how the nodes of the font itself can be influenced by a global effect at their root. Amazing.
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@doctormo @encukou
Good to know, thank you! I imagine it will be very difficult and require some fundamental modification at the text object level to receive effects like that. Right now, the only software I know that can stack effect deformation on top of editable text object is Blender (screenshot, eg. Wave Modifier on dynamic text object, multiline). It looks like "vector magic" how the nodes of the font itself can be influenced by a global effect at their root. Amazing.
It's not as hard as it first seems. The font has to be rendered down to a vector at some point anyway; so what you have a is a very complex shape. the problem is how the LivePathEffect system itself was designed and then on top you'd like for edits to be positioned correctly and that is more interesting too as you have to feedback the positions to the text selection too.
