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  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

    david_preston@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @sarae I generally have very low interaction stats on here though in general for digital socialising media but the little interactions I do have are quite warming to my cockles and perhaps help me to bring the hots to the niche masses. #mastodon #socialmedia #silentsunday

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    • recalcitrant@autonomous.zoneR recalcitrant@autonomous.zone

      @sarae I personally don’t fav because favs don’t autodelete as far as I can tell! But favs are great if you’re not worried about that!

      leguinian_utopia@union.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @Recalcitrant I think that can be turned off, or at least I remember untoggling something lime that 😅

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      • leguinian_utopia@union.placeL leguinian_utopia@union.place

        @Recalcitrant I think that can be turned off, or at least I remember untoggling something lime that 😅

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        #12

        @leguinian_utopia hmmmmmm I’ll look into it

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        • moss@kind.socialM moss@kind.social

          @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

          in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

          I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

          gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @moss @sarae @awawawa Agree. If someone posts that they’re having a hard time, often I might not fully understand why or how and worry about commenting delicately. So I favorite the post to be supportive, to acknowledge their discomfort .

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          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

            shnooflebear@curly.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @sarae Sounds like the old "gaming the algorithm" mind set. Luckily, on Mastodon, things that are worth spreading, are spread, whether you fav it, or not.

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            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

              colo_lee@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @sarae total agreement.

              maximizing-reach culture is toxic. It's a very good thing to leave behind here in the fediverse.

              Being kind and recognizing each other is good. And it's the kind of lovely action we should be encouraging...

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              • lalah@sakurajima.moeL lalah@sakurajima.moe

                @sarae oh no, not this nonsense again... I remember last time they were saying, "never fav or boost, only leave comments!" as if there aren't enough reply guys already!

                actual discussion is good of course, but commenting for the sake of commenting... why?

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                #16

                @lalah that really confused me as well

                commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut

                hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol

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                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                  schratze@todon.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @sarae literally who says this

                  I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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                  • gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG gpjohnston@mastodon.social

                    @sarae I’ve not seen the nega-fav posts, what they got against favoriting?

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                    #18

                    @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

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                    • moss@kind.socialM moss@kind.social

                      @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

                      in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

                      I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

                      mycrowgirl@flipping.rocksM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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                      • gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG gpjohnston@mastodon.social

                        @moss @sarae @awawawa Agree. If someone posts that they’re having a hard time, often I might not fully understand why or how and worry about commenting delicately. So I favorite the post to be supportive, to acknowledge their discomfort .

                        sarae@ecoevo.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @GPJohnston @moss @awawawa yep exactly this

                        "hang in there buddy times are tough but I am on Team You and hoping for the best"

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                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                          kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #21

                          @sarae@ecoevo.social

                          it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                          the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

                          it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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                          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                            @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

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                            #22

                            @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                              yjeva@mastodon.nzY This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #23

                              @sarae l have always thought it was like giving a friendly wave to someone on the street to let them know I have seen them even if I am not going to stop to chat right now.

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                              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                oatmealraisin@theforkiverse.comO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #24

                                @sarae

                                I'm a big fan of making my own rules. That's why I graduated childhood.

                                🤡

                                Starring = I like! (1/1 stars!)
                                Boosting = I want everyone to see this.

                                Do what you mean. Don't let the bastards grind you down.

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                                • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                  @sarae literally who says this

                                  I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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                                  #25

                                  @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

                                  not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

                                  but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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                                  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                    @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

                                    not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

                                    but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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                                    #26

                                    @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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                                    • colo_lee@mstdn.socialC colo_lee@mstdn.social

                                      @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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                                      #27

                                      @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

                                      but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

                                      that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

                                      (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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                                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                        beldarak@mastodon.gamedev.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #28

                                        @sarae

                                        I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

                                        You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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                                        • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                          @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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                                          #29

                                          @schratze thank you

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