Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

[jamey@toot.cat]

@futurebird I've certainly seen claims that the natural resources are the significant thing (e.g. https://theconversation.com/greenland-is-rich-in-natural-resources-a-geologist-explains-why-273022), though I doubt it's quite so simple as having just one reason

[catherineflick@mastodon.me.uk]

@futurebird apparently there are a lot of unexploited natural resources there

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

There is a theory that this move is designed to break up NATO.

I thought that was a little far fetched at first, NATO is really good for the US, it's like the birthday boy throwing a tantrum.

But some conservatives have a deep seated fear of "world government." So maybe that's it? Basically these are the guys who find it galling that there are notions like "international law" or "human rights" however unevenly applied.

[wakame@tech.lgbt]

@futurebird
In the next 20 years, due to climate change, Greenland will become an interesting place, because:
a) everything will be warmer and
b) it's easier to physically defend from "immigrants" and e.g. the US or Europe

And since I believe that the US wants to cool the planet temporary using nuclear explosions in South America or Africa (as part of a "war"), it makes sense to have a place far away from those regions.

[catherineflick@mastodon.me.uk]

@futurebird also port cities that can open up when the arctic ice retreats (yay! Climate change!)

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@depereo

Why can't they just do that now?

[bweller@mstdn.social]

@futurebird https://theworlddata.com/greenland-rare-earth-minerals/

[grahamdunning@post.lurk.org]

@futurebird as I understand it, due to the polar ice caps melting there will be a new viable sea trade route via the North West Passage.
But, like you say, I'm not sure why the US need to encroach on Greenland and not just, say, be allied to them.

[mamalake@beige.party]

@futurebird mineral rights to exploit and sea passage to control

[naturepoker@genomic.social]

@futurebird IMO it's not even companies, it's just Trump and his cronies' running a vanity project. From the way they've been pitching Venezuela to oil companies, him and his gang will just hold the whole thing hostage and demand direct payments for access, as in actual tens of percent income to the gov.

He just now outright gave an interview saying he wants Greenland because "it's psychologically important for him"

https://people.com/donald-trump-wants-ownership-greenland-psychologically-important-11883940

[transcendentempress@eldritch.cafe]

@futurebird It's big on the world map, and somebody told him there might eventually be unexploited ressources under it, plus that he could get his money share for making it possible, so he wants it?

[oyvindbs@nerdculture.de]

Probably extraction of minerals in a very harmful manner for the environment. Denmark and the EU does not give extractive industries free reign. @futurebird

[bubblegumyeti@mastodon.social]

@futurebird https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/the-world-the-universe-and-us/id1496847791

Basically nothing ; he has no clue. Only reason could be to secure Northern land with the incoming global warming apocalypse.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@naturepoker

I have a friend who used to work in commodities and he says the oil companies are not interested in Venezuela now. They were wary because of the government, but now they are MORE wary because it's less stable.

[eugestshirley@m.ai6yr.org]

@futurebird
Putin wants NATO gone. He's Donnie's puppeteer.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@EugestShirley

Everyone wants to be a little big man instead of actually doing amazing big things. The lack of imagination depresses me.

[psychonaut@mastodon.online]

@futurebird imho it's about having somewhere to live in a couple of decades when the majority of the continental US is uninhabitable due to climate change. Ditto the aspirations about Canada becoming the 51st state.

[androcat@toot.cat]

@futurebird Take away all indigenous rights and stripmine the bedrock that will be revealed as their climate decisions melt the ice caps.

[nicksalt@mas.to]

@futurebird I am sure it is the reason. These are the same type of people who orchestrated Brexit in the UK and sold it to the same type of "flag waving citizens" for support.

[naturepoker@genomic.social]

@futurebird sounds about right. Impression I'm getting here and there is no one really asked for any of this outside the pres himself and his cronies looking to play modern day Alexander.