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  3. Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months.

Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months.

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  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

    Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

    He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

    Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

    #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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    #22

    @aral Betting on disaster to stop them is an illusion; the capital and systems that have tasted the machine's efficiency in erasure and profit will not back down, but will treat victims and software errors as an "acceptable cost" of dominance. When human skill and responsibility fall, humanity falls first💔😔🇵🇸🇵🇸✌️

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    • mathew@universeodon.comM mathew@universeodon.com

      @dkl @aral May's Patch Tuesday addressed 120 separate vulnerabilities, including 17 classified as critical. GitHub's uptime is now zero nines, and they just had 3,800 internal repositories hacked. For a lot of businesses, those would be catastrophic events, but long term Microsoft customers are used to poor security and unreliability.

      https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/

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      #23

      @mathew @dkl This.

      By “catastrophic” he meant something that causes people to die, etc. (Medical systems, etc.)

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        #24

        @chopsstephens Yep.

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        • violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV violetmadder@kolektiva.social

          @chopsstephens @aral

          The entire industry is frantically sailing itself up shit creek at Ludicrous Speed.

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          @violetmadder @chopsstephens Sure looks that way.

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          • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

            @aral I heard a talk from someone, who said something similar, some months back. I'm worried

            https://infosec.exchange/@webhat/115577847239737501

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            #26

            @webhat @aral as someone who used to administer systems, this shit scares the crap out of me. I'm no dev, but I've supported many many devs in my life.

            I used to be able to say to lead devs "this is happening, and this is the error" and they'd almost know why. I don't even think that's possible now

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              #27

              @chopsstephens @aral Yep.

              Greenfield is easy.

              Upgrades and significant modification...not so much.

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                #28

                @aral @glynmoody Yes well cue management that thinks it knows better what to do followed by knowing it better how to do it. Tic tic tic tic tic...

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                • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

                  @aral I heard a talk from someone, who said something similar, some months back. I'm worried

                  https://infosec.exchange/@webhat/115577847239737501

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                  #29

                  @webhat @aral 🚨🚨

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                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                    Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                    He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                    Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                    #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                    #30

                    @aral sickos.jpg

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                      He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                      Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                      #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                      #31

                      @aral And then they will demand government bail-outs to compensate them for their catastrophic losses.

                      And will get them.

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                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                        Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                        He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                        Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                        #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                        #32

                        @aral
                        In a minor aside, I was forced to use Copi-lot the other day to change a date field in an online Word document. No other way

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                        • jaker@c.imJ jaker@c.im

                          @aral
                          In a minor aside, I was forced to use Copi-lot the other day to change a date field in an online Word document. No other way

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                          @jaker Wow.

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