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  • jannem@fosstodon.orgJ jannem@fosstodon.org

    @grumble209 @randahl
    A power move would be for the musicians to say that okay, we're forced to play so we play.

    And then perform exactly as well as you would expect when you're forced against your will by the lead act and their lawyers. While making clear to the audience they're there against their will.

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    #13

    @jannem @randahl I'd be surprised if new acts and a new backing band aren't already on planes. They just need a good drummer, and soloists who can learn their parts - everything else is likely already on a click track. Any pros they hire will learn the rest in a week.

    Sheeran's website still has tickets on sale for this weekend. They might cancel one city, but they'll have a show next week - there's too much money at stake to not hire replacements.

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    • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

      @randahl he may have to tour with Pink and Kanye West now

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      #14

      @FrancoisPrague Pink? How is she in the Kanye camp?

      francoisprague@mastodon.socialF benroyce@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        @FrancoisPrague Pink? How is she in the Kanye camp?

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        #15

        @randahl well Kanye toured the same stadium as Sheeran without any backlash from the stadium owner… I do not mean West and Pink are ideologically bound. Just they both have narratives the stadium owner is willing to accept in his stadium.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          @FrancoisPrague Pink? How is she in the Kanye camp?

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          #16

          @randahl @FrancoisPrague

          #Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years

          also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions

          and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference

          https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/

          lordkhan@social.cologneL randahl@mastodon.socialR dukeduke@mastodon.socialD thatfeministwoman@mastodon.socialT mcv@friendica.opensocial.spaceM 5 Replies Last reply
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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Own goal of the century:

            British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

            Result:

            American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

            Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

            Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

            Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

            The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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            #17

            @randahl well that went well for him didn't it? Sorry I can't boycott him as I've always thought his music was insipid detritus.

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            • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

              @randahl he may have to tour with Pink and Kanye West now

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              #18

              @FrancoisPrague @randahl they could add Kid Rock and The Disturbed on. Imagine the tour album collection? It would literally sell tens of copies!

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Own goal of the century:

                British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                Result:

                American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                #19

                @randahl To be honest: I do not know any of this people. 🤣

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  @randahl @paulk Sheeran’s statement on this was awful - a total cop out, doubling down on his desire to remain apolitical. Just terrible all around, considering we are dealing with a genocide.

                  Please look up statements by the bands that dropped out - they restored my faith in humanity.

                  Fuck Sheeran forever and ever (and I never say the F word, but damn)

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                  #20

                  @_elena @randahl @paulk

                  Ed is political when it's convenient.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                    #Pink deserves to be mentioned because it was Pink who triggered this entire drama. it was her who brought to the recent forefront criticism of #Macklemore for his support for #Palestine, he has been doing this on stage for years

                    also: she claims to be defending Jews. this isn't about Jews or antisemitism, it's about #Israel's actions

                    and I don't know when this world will finally understand the radioactively obvious fucking difference

                    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/pink-anti-macklemore-palestine-post-1236698412/

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                    #21

                    @benroyce @randahl @FrancoisPrague that’s the point: it’s about calling a crime a crime. This whole “you’re just saying it because I’m <you name it>” is so exhausting.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Own goal of the century:

                      British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                      Result:

                      American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                      Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                      Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                      Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                      The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                      #22

                      @randahl what a turnaround. I just read Macklemore’s statement which was very well put and which is a great example of critique with leaving the door open for change.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        Own goal of the century:

                        British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                        Result:

                        American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                        Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                        Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                        Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                        The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                        #23

                        @randahl I wasn't aware of Ed's support for Israeli nonsense. I shall do my part and remove him from all playlists. 🤷

                        Who in their right mind support that state?! 🙄

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                          #24

                          @benroyce @randahl @FrancoisPrague yes, I am with you there. Antisemitism is becoming stronger every day, which makes it harder to distinguish who is actually concerned about war crimes or just being antisemitic or a racist.

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                          • lordkhan@social.cologneL lordkhan@social.cologne

                            @benroyce @randahl @FrancoisPrague yes, I am with you there. Antisemitism is becoming stronger every day, which makes it harder to distinguish who is actually concerned about war crimes or just being antisemitic or a racist.

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                            #25

                            @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                            yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world

                            so we talk about it and we oppose it

                            we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions

                            we do both

                            and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics

                            except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Own goal of the century:

                              British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                              Result:

                              American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                              Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                              Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                              Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                              The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                              #26

                              @randahl Ed Sheeran is the living meme of the pretend moderate who sets a middle ground between genocide and no genocide.

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                              • Z zerodowntime@mastodon.social

                                @randahl I wasn't aware of Ed's support for Israeli nonsense. I shall do my part and remove him from all playlists. 🤷

                                Who in their right mind support that state?! 🙄

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                                #27

                                @zerodowntime

                                Sheeran was not so much pro-israel as "bowed down to an ultimatum from pro-Israel venue owners".

                                As much as such moral cowardice should be shamed, we need this light to be shone on Kraft and his ultimatum.

                                Sheeran should have made noise about it instead of trying to quietly shove the moral person off the tour.

                                @randahl

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Own goal of the century:

                                  British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                                  Result:

                                  American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                                  Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                                  Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                                  Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                                  The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                                  #28

                                  @randahl Please add the bit about the venue owners' ultimatum.

                                  Those are the ones we really need to get out into the open, because they're going to keep doing this, otherwise.

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                                  • lordkhan@social.cologneL lordkhan@social.cologne

                                    @randahl what a turnaround. I just read Macklemore’s statement which was very well put and which is a great example of critique with leaving the door open for change.

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                                    #29

                                    @lordkhan

                                    It's a great statement.
                                    And that's probably why everyone else left.

                                    @randahl

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                      yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world

                                      so we talk about it and we oppose it

                                      we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions

                                      we do both

                                      and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics

                                      except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars

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                                      #30

                                      @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                      And let's recall: Zionism never had a plan that was not genocide.

                                      Building an ethnostate where other people live == genocide.

                                      How was this smoothed over for 70 years?

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                        yes, #antisemitism is on the rise in the world

                                        so we talk about it and we oppose it

                                        we *also* talk about and we oppose #Israel's genocidal actions

                                        we do both

                                        and those are completely unrelated, uncrossed topics

                                        except in the words of complete idiots and manipulative liars

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                                        #31

                                        @benroyce @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague

                                        the problem being, there _are_ a lot of manipulative liars in this space. one does have to be super clear when talking about this topic, becuase there really are antisemites who will seize on Israel's actions as an excuse/justification/reinforcement for their own bigotry.

                                        what a hot mess, but (back to the original topic) a spectacular own goal, I hope Ed Sheeran will take the time to consider his situation with clear eyes.

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Own goal of the century:

                                          British singer and songwriter Ed Sheeran's Loop tour boots American rapper Macklemore, after Macklemore condemns Israel's genocide in Gaza.

                                          Result:

                                          American singer Fineas quits the Loop tour.

                                          Dublin singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe quits.

                                          Danish pop singer Lucas Graham quits.

                                          Ed Sheeran's own backing band Beoga quits.

                                          The tour was supposed to continue until December, but all that is left is Ed Sheeran and the support for Israel's genocide.

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                                          #32

                                          @randahl thanks for explaining why my timeline suddenly was negative to Sheeran..

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