“Courage is knowing it might hurt & doing it anyway.
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Related courage or stupidity? - https://toot.cafe/@baldur/116860922240961497
‘as AI companies are starting to charge based on token-usage not simply a flat subscription, many of their customers are shocked at the bill. "Companies are scrambling to stop spending so much on AI," as 404 Media reports.-https://www.404media.co/the-tokenpocalypse-is-here-companies-are-scrambling-to-stop-spending-so-much-on-ai/
These are businesses that moved fixed-cost to variable-subscription- cost and are “surprised” they can no longer afford essential service price increase. What did they think would happen?
Related - https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/116896277399131257
“Doesn’t take a genius to figure out that lots of companies smarting from increasing costs of AI tokens might start to look for cheaper alternatives, and that those alternatives increasingly are going to come from our adversaries.”
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"Cursor, which will be acquired by Elon Musk's SpaceX for $60 billion, built its Composer 2 model using Chinese AI model Kimi, which was developed by Moonshot AI."
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/08/chinese-ai-models-probe-us-lawmakers.html
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Related - https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/116896277399131257
“Doesn’t take a genius to figure out that lots of companies smarting from increasing costs of AI tokens might start to look for cheaper alternatives, and that those alternatives increasingly are going to come from our adversaries.”
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"Cursor, which will be acquired by Elon Musk's SpaceX for $60 billion, built its Composer 2 model using Chinese AI model Kimi, which was developed by Moonshot AI."
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/08/chinese-ai-models-probe-us-lawmakers.html
“AI Is Pushing Older Employees Straight Out of the Workforce, New Report Finds
https://futurism.com/future-society/ai-pushing-workers-retirement-older-labor-automation?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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“AI Is Pushing Older Employees Straight Out of the Workforce, New Report Finds
https://futurism.com/future-society/ai-pushing-workers-retirement-older-labor-automation?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
Posted into Future Society @future-society-Futurism”Related - https://hachyderm.io/@mweagle/116898915360905510
“Key takeaways:
- Mid-level engineers are subsidizing everyone else’s AI productivity – and burning out for it.
- The warning signs are there if you look closely: the invisible validator problem is probably already in motion.
- The ‘fix’ is making oversight explicit. The engineers burning out today were meant to become your senior leaders tomorrow.” - https://leaddev.com/ai/ai-productivity-is-burning-out-your-best-engineers -
Related - https://hachyderm.io/@mweagle/116898915360905510
“Key takeaways:
- Mid-level engineers are subsidizing everyone else’s AI productivity – and burning out for it.
- The warning signs are there if you look closely: the invisible validator problem is probably already in motion.
- The ‘fix’ is making oversight explicit. The engineers burning out today were meant to become your senior leaders tomorrow.” - https://leaddev.com/ai/ai-productivity-is-burning-out-your-best-engineersSo the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING
juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT
️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
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Related - https://hachyderm.io/@mweagle/116898915360905510
“Key takeaways:
- Mid-level engineers are subsidizing everyone else’s AI productivity – and burning out for it.
- The warning signs are there if you look closely: the invisible validator problem is probably already in motion.
- The ‘fix’ is making oversight explicit. The engineers burning out today were meant to become your senior leaders tomorrow.” - https://leaddev.com/ai/ai-productivity-is-burning-out-your-best-engineers@dahukanna the DORA report showed that, while well-organized teams can benefit from AI, AI on top of poor processes has a negative outcome.
This statement: "When I looked back at her sprint that week, she had zero points to show for it.", contains enough red flags to be sure that this manager is in the second category.
Of course, businesses with poor processes are likely to reach for AI because it seems to offer an easy fix.
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So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
AI is going to Kodak America.
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So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
@dahukanna Here’s a piece I wrote. I was considering Boeing and Kodak as candidates but planes falling out of the sky seemed harsh to make a point. https://technical.ly/company-culture/sony-intel-leadership-tech-decline-guest-post/
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@dahukanna Here’s a piece I wrote. I was considering Boeing and Kodak as candidates but planes falling out of the sky seemed harsh to make a point. https://technical.ly/company-culture/sony-intel-leadership-tech-decline-guest-post/
@FlipperPA ultimately, these narratives are about consequences of balancing short-, mid- & long-term decisions.
The Boeing “set of short-term avarice decisions” was decades in the making & only “grabbed attention” when planes & their components started falling out the sky with paying passengers onboard. Intel & Kodak also avarice-driven. “Avarice” is not a business purpose.
With AI-LLM consequences, do we wait until “humans” are literally falling out of:
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So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
At some point, every practice goes through a point where outside senior management thinks they know everything about how the sausage is made.
And they don't. And that business, practice or industry inevitably collapses because every small failure along the way was ignored by people who told themselves they knew better and didn't have to listen to people who actually understood their jobs.
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So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
@dahukanna I'm less familiar with these business case studies, so I did some reading. Kodak's downfall was from not embracing digital photography, despite producing the first digital camera. Boeing's ruination is from lax quality control due to outsourcing and cutting costs.
So the connection you're making to LLM companies is that, despite bringing the technology to the masses, they're falling behind cheaper competitors. And that companies that don't manage quality control in their LLM use, the default state of affairs, are suffering due to mid-level engineer burnout. It's like the Boeing case, but with the effects directed outwards to customers. Is that it?
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@dahukanna I'm less familiar with these business case studies, so I did some reading. Kodak's downfall was from not embracing digital photography, despite producing the first digital camera. Boeing's ruination is from lax quality control due to outsourcing and cutting costs.
So the connection you're making to LLM companies is that, despite bringing the technology to the masses, they're falling behind cheaper competitors. And that companies that don't manage quality control in their LLM use, the default state of affairs, are suffering due to mid-level engineer burnout. It's like the Boeing case, but with the effects directed outwards to customers. Is that it?
@thalia there’s thesis written about the 2 case studies.
I’ve < 500 chars to illustrate avarice-based human decisions or “shareholder value”.
Kodak (incumbent market leader, IML) execs decided not to move into digital media. When ppl stopped using film commercially & personally, their business purpose “disappeared” & so did the company.
Boeing (IML) execs made their job “finance engineering” instead of aeronautics, compromising safety.
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@thalia there’s thesis written about the 2 case studies.
I’ve < 500 chars to illustrate avarice-based human decisions or “shareholder value”.
Kodak (incumbent market leader, IML) execs decided not to move into digital media. When ppl stopped using film commercially & personally, their business purpose “disappeared” & so did the company.
Boeing (IML) execs made their job “finance engineering” instead of aeronautics, compromising safety.
Without human experts & market, who’s using your products?@thalia
Related courage or stupidity?-
Latest Boeing “business as usual” consequence of trimming “safety costs” July 2026- passenger gets abrasion burns from safety belt instead of falling out the plane, mid-air in Boeing 737 NG -
“Man Sucked Out of Airplane, Dangles by Seatbelt
https://futurism.com/advanced-transport/man-sucked-out-of-airplane-dangles-by-seatbelt” -
So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
Isn't there Stage 4, where they hire back a bunch of 'junior devs' to actually WRITE code, to 'get around' the LLM tokens nonsense?!
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“AI Is Pushing Older Employees Straight Out of the Workforce, New Report Finds
https://futurism.com/future-society/ai-pushing-workers-retirement-older-labor-automation?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
Posted into Future Society @future-society-Futurism”Related - https://chaos.social/@dpk/116662550530901242
“Everyone talks about not having senior devs in the future because we’re replacing the juniors with LLMs, but nobody’s talking about losing senior devs now because people who are competent and care about the quality of their work are leaving this LLM-infested hellscape of a career path to go into carpentry, hostelry, or subsistence farming”
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So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
Non, rien de rien. Non, je ne regrette rien - Édith Piaf
(No, nothing at all. No, I regret nothing)“55 Percent of Leaders (sic- Managers) Regret AI Layoffs—and a Major Hiring Reversal Has Begun https://www.inc.com/bruce-crumley/55-percent-of-leaders-regret-ai-layoffs-and-a-major-hiring-reversal-has-begun/91380901”
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Isn't there Stage 4, where they hire back a bunch of 'junior devs' to actually WRITE code, to 'get around' the LLM tokens nonsense?!
@bytebro looks like your stage 4 is happening - https://mastodon.social/@dahukanna/117030443611389404
Don’t accept low-ball offers as they made their “mess”, let them pay for it to be “unmessed”. -
So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
@dahukanna I saw a video last night which said that AI means we can get junior engineers contributing faster. Was an interesting perspective!
(I am just sharing this perspective, not advocating for it, or defending it).
This is the video, most of his perspective made me depressed!
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So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
@dahukanna thank you for helping me to immediately avoid any sentimentality about kodak in the future
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So the AI business “model” is:
1. NOT HIRING juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
2. BURNING OUT️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
3. PUSHING OUT experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.
@dahukanna I can’t wait for this business model to crash - but I’m really sorry for all the workers who get run over on the way.
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