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  • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

    So the AI business “model” is:
    1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
    2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
    3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

    This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

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    #12

    @dahukanna

    AI is going to Kodak America.

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    • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

      So the AI business “model” is:
      1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
      2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
      3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

      This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

      flipperpa@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @dahukanna Here’s a piece I wrote. I was considering Boeing and Kodak as candidates but planes falling out of the sky seemed harsh to make a point. https://technical.ly/company-culture/sony-intel-leadership-tech-decline-guest-post/

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      • flipperpa@fosstodon.orgF flipperpa@fosstodon.org

        @dahukanna Here’s a piece I wrote. I was considering Boeing and Kodak as candidates but planes falling out of the sky seemed harsh to make a point. https://technical.ly/company-culture/sony-intel-leadership-tech-decline-guest-post/

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        #14

        @FlipperPA ultimately, these narratives are about consequences of balancing short-, mid- & long-term decisions.

        The Boeing “set of short-term avarice decisions” was decades in the making & only “grabbed attention” when planes & their components started falling out the sky with paying passengers onboard. Intel & Kodak also avarice-driven. “Avarice” is not a business purpose.

        With AI-LLM consequences, do we wait until “humans” are literally falling out of:
        1. the sky
        2. their minds
        3. employment

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        • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

          So the AI business “model” is:
          1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
          2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
          3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

          This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

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          #15

          @dahukanna

          At some point, every practice goes through a point where outside senior management thinks they know everything about how the sausage is made.

          And they don't. And that business, practice or industry inevitably collapses because every small failure along the way was ignored by people who told themselves they knew better and didn't have to listen to people who actually understood their jobs.

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          • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

            So the AI business “model” is:
            1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
            2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
            3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

            This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

            thalia@discuss.systemsT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #16

            @dahukanna I'm less familiar with these business case studies, so I did some reading. Kodak's downfall was from not embracing digital photography, despite producing the first digital camera. Boeing's ruination is from lax quality control due to outsourcing and cutting costs.

            So the connection you're making to LLM companies is that, despite bringing the technology to the masses, they're falling behind cheaper competitors. And that companies that don't manage quality control in their LLM use, the default state of affairs, are suffering due to mid-level engineer burnout. It's like the Boeing case, but with the effects directed outwards to customers. Is that it?

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            • thalia@discuss.systemsT thalia@discuss.systems

              @dahukanna I'm less familiar with these business case studies, so I did some reading. Kodak's downfall was from not embracing digital photography, despite producing the first digital camera. Boeing's ruination is from lax quality control due to outsourcing and cutting costs.

              So the connection you're making to LLM companies is that, despite bringing the technology to the masses, they're falling behind cheaper competitors. And that companies that don't manage quality control in their LLM use, the default state of affairs, are suffering due to mid-level engineer burnout. It's like the Boeing case, but with the effects directed outwards to customers. Is that it?

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              #17

              @thalia there’s thesis written about the 2 case studies.
              I’ve < 500 chars to illustrate avarice-based human decisions or “shareholder value”.
              Kodak (incumbent market leader, IML) execs decided not to move into digital media. When ppl stopped using film commercially & personally, their business purpose “disappeared” & so did the company.
              Boeing (IML) execs made their job “finance engineering” instead of aeronautics, compromising safety.
              Without human experts & market, who’s using your products?

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              • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

                @thalia there’s thesis written about the 2 case studies.
                I’ve < 500 chars to illustrate avarice-based human decisions or “shareholder value”.
                Kodak (incumbent market leader, IML) execs decided not to move into digital media. When ppl stopped using film commercially & personally, their business purpose “disappeared” & so did the company.
                Boeing (IML) execs made their job “finance engineering” instead of aeronautics, compromising safety.
                Without human experts & market, who’s using your products?

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                #18

                @thalia
                Related courage or stupidity?-
                Latest Boeing “business as usual” consequence of trimming “safety costs” July 2026- passenger gets abrasion burns from safety belt instead of falling out the plane, mid-air in Boeing 737 NG -
                “Man Sucked Out of Airplane, Dangles by Seatbelt
                https://futurism.com/advanced-transport/man-sucked-out-of-airplane-dangles-by-seatbelt”

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                • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

                  So the AI business “model” is:
                  1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
                  2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
                  3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

                  This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

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                  #19

                  @dahukanna

                  Isn't there Stage 4, where they hire back a bunch of 'junior devs' to actually WRITE code, to 'get around' the LLM tokens nonsense?!

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                  • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

                    Related - https://flipboard.com/@futurism/future-society-q9o43qrjz/-/a-t_vHFkmNSpyeK7HvheAfUw%3Aa%3A1737388686-%2F0

                    “AI Is Pushing Older Employees Straight Out of the Workforce, New Report Finds
                    https://futurism.com/future-society/ai-pushing-workers-retirement-older-labor-automation?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
                    Posted into Future Society @future-society-Futurism”

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                    #20

                    Related - https://chaos.social/@dpk/116662550530901242

                    “Everyone talks about not having senior devs in the future because we’re replacing the juniors with LLMs, but nobody’s talking about losing senior devs now because people who are competent and care about the quality of their work are leaving this LLM-infested hellscape of a career path to go into carpentry, hostelry, or subsistence farming”

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                    • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

                      So the AI business “model” is:
                      1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
                      2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
                      3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

                      This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

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                      #21

                      🎶 Non, rien de rien. Non, je ne regrette rien🎶 - Édith Piaf
                      (No, nothing at all. No, I regret nothing)

                      “55 Percent of Leaders (sic- Managers) Regret AI Layoffs—and a Major Hiring Reversal Has Begun https://www.inc.com/bruce-crumley/55-percent-of-leaders-regret-ai-layoffs-and-a-major-hiring-reversal-has-begun/91380901”
                      - https://social.lol/@cote/117030052166099570

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                      • bytebro@mastodonapp.ukB bytebro@mastodonapp.uk

                        @dahukanna

                        Isn't there Stage 4, where they hire back a bunch of 'junior devs' to actually WRITE code, to 'get around' the LLM tokens nonsense?!

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                        #22

                        @bytebro looks like your stage 4 is happening - https://mastodon.social/@dahukanna/117030443611389404
                        Don’t accept low-ball offers as they made their “mess”, let them pay for it to be “unmessed”.

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                        • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

                          So the AI business “model” is:
                          1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
                          2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
                          3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

                          This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

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                          #23

                          @dahukanna I saw a video last night which said that AI means we can get junior engineers contributing faster. Was an interesting perspective!

                          (I am just sharing this perspective, not advocating for it, or defending it).

                          This is the video, most of his perspective made me depressed!

                          https://youtu.be/h0hdaHPKDdI

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                          • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

                            So the AI business “model” is:
                            1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
                            2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
                            3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

                            This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

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                            #24

                            @dahukanna thank you for helping me to immediately avoid any sentimentality about kodak in the future

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                            • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

                              So the AI business “model” is:
                              1. NOT HIRING 📉 juniors to create human candidates for the specialists & experts with work experience.
                              2. BURNING OUT ☢️ mid-level engineers, hardware (prices rising), infrastructure consumed unsustainably (water & electricity) to make everyone “addicted” to AI-LLM word & sentence calculator.
                              3. PUSHING OUT 📉 experienced senior-level engineers who advise & set tech strategy for “the business”.

                              This is the “Kodak” & “Boeing” business downfall case studies combined.

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                              #25

                              @dahukanna I can’t wait for this business model to crash - but I’m really sorry for all the workers who get run over on the way.

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