If you’re still using Proton mail:
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RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861
If you’re still using Proton mail:
The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.
If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.
UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
I was already suspicious of Proton being far-right with their support for Republicans, this proves it further. -
@woozle @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop That's a fantastic idea, yes! My only caution there is that if it sets stuff up rather than just suggesting configs and then vetting them, it's worth having it generate before-and-after records of what it found and how it changed things. I'm thinking that either it's a complete hands-off appliance *or* they're going to have to be comfortable sysadminning it.
@mason @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop
My preferred style is "here are all the options, but you don't have to change anything if you're fine with the defaults" -- kind of like MediaWiki's web-based setup.
...and then a UI which makes it easier to do changes later, once you know more about what you want.
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"they had some bullshit around vocally supporting Trump and the christofascist GOP"
No, that's not at all what happened - but the truth isn't as juicy as hate campaigns.
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RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861
If you’re still using Proton mail:
The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.
If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.
UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
@slothrop
Companies like Proton sponsor creators across the political spectrum not because they agree with those creators, but because they're businesses and they're trying to get more customers. I saw Matt Walsh shilling for NordVPN. Does that mean I shouldn't use NordVPN? This insistence on absolute ideological purity that some people on the left engage in is just silly and counter-productive. And for the record, I'm pretty far left myself. -
"you've also probably got some bullshit around vocally supporting Trump and the christofascist GOP,"
You seem to be quite unwell. I hope you get better.
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Andy was, literally, commenting on that a specific person had previously been a proponent for small tech vs big tech which he saw as a good thing.
That's all. That's all it was.
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@slothrop Lol. I went to Proton cos of how bad Google are (Swiss, developed by CERN, etc). Who is a decent email provider these days, or do they start out with good intentions and get corrupted?
Proton is that decent provider. The hate campaign you're seeing here is mostly just people who seem to have issues with reading comprehension in general.
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RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861
If you’re still using Proton mail:
The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.
If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.
UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
@slothrop ah fuck we wanted to drop them a while ago but still haven't moved everything from it
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Your fallacy is believing that your culture is the only one in the world. '88' is a nazi dogwhistle in the west since a few decades back - but it means "double fortune" and is part of asian numerology for thousands of years.
Don't be stupid on the Internet.
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He's asian.
Since you didn't read it the last time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_numerology#Eight
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Now you're just making stuff up. It's your choice to act like an idiot but people like you are why great organisations _don't_ want to keep a presence on Mastodon.
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@slothrop ah fuck we wanted to drop them a while ago but still haven't moved everything from it
@slothrop well this is our cue to get this done ASAP
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Your inability to understand other cultures only says something about you - not them.
Here - have a Swedish icecream: https://handla.ica.se/produkt/1466620
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No, you're making stuff up because it's apparently important for you to act like an ass towards Proton.
Occam's razor is pretty clear on an asian person using the number 88 and you claiming it must have something to do with nazi dogwhistles.
And no, an affiliate program is not sponsorship. And no, Andy saying that a single person in Trump's previous cabinet had a history of supporting small tech vs big tech was not a "Trump endorsement" and all the other conspiracy theories you managed to drag up in this thread.
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"you've also probably got some bullshit around vocally supporting Trump and the christofascist GOP,"
You seem to be quite unwell. I hope you get better.
@troed That ain't a denial, and I'm not the one defending the defenders of the Cavalcade of Incompetence here.
If the hood fits...
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RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861
If you’re still using Proton mail:
The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.
If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.
UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
RE: https://toot.cafe/@chartier/116714648918327920
The Reddit post linked in this toot has some additional info.
tl;dr: it’s as bad as it looks.
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No, you're making stuff up because it's apparently important for you to act like an ass towards Proton.
Occam's razor is pretty clear on an asian person using the number 88 and you claiming it must have something to do with nazi dogwhistles.
And no, an affiliate program is not sponsorship. And no, Andy saying that a single person in Trump's previous cabinet had a history of supporting small tech vs big tech was not a "Trump endorsement" and all the other conspiracy theories you managed to drag up in this thread.
@troed @Infoseepage @gotofritz @slothrop So by staying with Proton as a paing customer doesn't mean my money ends up funding neofascists? Because that is really not what I want. But to be honest, as a working father of a 2yo I really lack the time and motiviation of migrating all my accounts again.
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@troed @Infoseepage @gotofritz @slothrop So by staying with Proton as a paing customer doesn't mean my money ends up funding neofascists? Because that is really not what I want. But to be honest, as a working father of a 2yo I really lack the time and motiviation of migrating all my accounts again.
Correct, there's absolutely nothing even fash-adjacent with Proton.
(I'm a Visionary customer of Proton's - and I'm as opposite to authoritarian as can possibly be. They're doing good stuff with my money)
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RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861
If you’re still using Proton mail:
The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.
If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.
UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
Context from Proton: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
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RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861
If you’re still using Proton mail:
The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.
If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.
UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
@slothrop Moved from Proton to NordVPN last month.