If you’re still using Proton mail:

[shojiwax@mastodon.online]

@slothrop

1. Moving your email provider is a non trivial task.
2. I have just finished moving my entire ecosystem from google to proton (ie mail, password manager, VPN etc) because google sux.
3. I am so tired of this shit.

[ianhecht@mstdn.ca]

@slothrop C'est très décourageant. Y a-t-il une compagnie de courriel chiffré plus raisonnable sur le plan politique?

[plantagolabs@mastodon.social]

@slothrop Noooooo I just moved away from google and started to get comfy with proton mail.

[strangenoises@mastodon.social]

@Brett_E_Carlock @drsbaitso @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota I have been considering Mailbox.org for my eventual flight from gmail. It seems more like a basic ye olde mail provider rather than another lock-in. Someone can now tell me why they’re evil too…

[drangnon@hachyderm.io]

@benroyce what are you using for your email? @alice @slothrop

[drangnon@hachyderm.io]

@Ox1de that was my thought also @slothrop @protonmail

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@draNgNon @alice @slothrop

why would i answer that

opsec matters

only give out that info you are comfortable that it can't be used against you

but i hear tuta is pretty cool

[strangenoises@mastodon.social]

@Brett_E_Carlock @drsbaitso @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota isn’t that the case with proton too?

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@Ox1de in what regard does this “story” (such as it is) seem misleading?

In any case, I too would welcome a clarification from
@protonmail

[drangnon@hachyderm.io]

@benroyce lol ok I wasn't asking for your email address but I'm aware of how opsec matters, very very aware. I'm slowly correcting problematic things in my situation, which reminds me of something @alice @slothrop

[jago@mementomori.social]

@slothrop from one fascist arsehole service to another. Fuck this shit, I think I'm going back to my own domain.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@draNgNon @alice @slothrop

i didn't feel like saying and then got all defensive 🤭

it's cool, we cool

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@draNgNon @benroyce @alice fwiw, I use a managed hosting service that includes email, on my own domain.

This may sound a little complicated, but it isn’t really. I set it up following the provider’s howtos. That was ca. 15 years ago, and it’s just been ticking along.

If that provider ever goes bad, I can just take my stuff elsewhere. The service itself is basically a commodity.

[gatogatogato@ohai.social]

@Infoseepage @slothrop What is a good alternative? Where did you go?

[acid@ohai.social]

@slothrop Oh man, I just switched to proton because the mail provider I used before is owned by a fascist /o\

[kleisli@mastodon.social]

@jago why did you think you need more than an IMAP&SMTP server with your own domain? @slothrop

[roboro@mastodon.social]

@slothrop totally depressed by this. It has been a challenge to migrate all of my mail and friends and family on my domain off of Google's crap infrastructure. Have struggled with some shortcomings in Proton - their alias handling etc is terrible - but I am really upset to hear about fascist leanings etc. I just don't know how to up and migrate a whole bunch of people after a few months of getting people used to the shift.
Why is the world so full of horrible people?

[yaxu@post.lurk.org]

@slothrop Anyone can sign up to be an affiliate as part of their partners program. Seems more plausible than a swiss email company taking the time to sponsor a far right youtuber? https://proton.me/partners/affiliates

[lli@mastodon.lli.be]

@slothrop

Entièrement raison, c'est une farce.

https://www.numerama.com/tech/736940-protonmail-transmet-des-adresses-ip-a-la-police-4-questions-pour-comprendre-la-polemique.html

https://www.justgeek.fr/proton-mail-fbi-donnees-anonymat-147761/

[ratfactor@mastodon.art]

@tempusfelix @slothrop Ethics/sustainability/privacy are some of the reasons I chose Runbox:

https://runbox.com/about/

They're also on the Fediverse: @runbox