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  • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

    @benroyce @stux

    One possibly underappreciated part of fedi is a much higher mod to user ratio than most social media because of the federated design and higher sense of ownership people feel for their instances

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    #16

    @gbargoud @benroyce @stux Well said. I would also add control.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @MasterMischief @jamoquanty

      fucking zombie MAGA chuds

      no idea what easy marks they are for plutocrat grift

      so happy to see bigotry prevail

      too fucking stupid to see how they are used to their own detriment

      and they think they are "winning"

      grand tragedy as farce

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      #17

      @benroyce @MasterMischief I don't think I'm a maga chud.

      Trump's a known fuckwit long before his venture into US politics, that he's the best the US can offer twice now says rather a lot imo.

      The issue not so much what colour of lies your prefer on the telly, and more just the idea that 50% of the US are insta banned as fucktwits on the fediverse.

      If that's the case then insgtabanning anyone pushing blue lies from the US administration might make this place a little more balanced.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @gbargoud @stux

        well said

        corporate #socialMedia is about making money

        this has two terrible effects:

        1. #moderation is a cost center for them. if you want to make money, you want to cut costs. therefore, it's cheaper for them to say "freeze peach!", decimate the #mod dept, and let #bigotry and #disinfo run wild

        2. we say "don't feed the #trolls" but the unfortunate human baseline behavior is that controversy drives clicks, eyeballs, engagement. therefore, bigots and disinfo is *profitable*

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        #18

        @benroyce @stux

        I think this is also why closed but large Facebook groups were good long after Facebook started sucking shit.

        Moderation in those groups is volunteer based and driven by a sense of ownership over the community.

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @MasterMischief @jamoquanty

          fucking zombie MAGA chuds

          no idea what easy marks they are for plutocrat grift

          so happy to see bigotry prevail

          too fucking stupid to see how they are used to their own detriment

          and they think they are "winning"

          grand tragedy as farce

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          #19

          @benroyce @MasterMischief is calling millions of people zombies not a little dehumanizing?

          It's what we called flag shaggers here as kids in school, but seems a little uncouth round these parts.

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          • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

            @benroyce @MasterMischief I don't think I'm a maga chud.

            Trump's a known fuckwit long before his venture into US politics, that he's the best the US can offer twice now says rather a lot imo.

            The issue not so much what colour of lies your prefer on the telly, and more just the idea that 50% of the US are insta banned as fucktwits on the fediverse.

            If that's the case then insgtabanning anyone pushing blue lies from the US administration might make this place a little more balanced.

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            #20

            @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

            "Trump's a known fuckwit long before his venture into US politics, that he's the best the US can offer twice now says rather a lot imo."

            i stopped reading here

            trump is president because he was voted in

            who voted him in?

            so what is the root problem?

            do you understand?

            you think you're successfully topic shifting here away from MAGA by stupidly, or as a stupid troll maneuver, avoiding their obvious blame for delivering this shit?

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            • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @MasterMischief is calling millions of people zombies not a little dehumanizing?

              It's what we called flag shaggers here as kids in school, but seems a little uncouth round these parts.

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              #21

              @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

              is calling a moronic bigot a moronic bigot unfair?

              if you say so

              i don't say so

              your comment is simply a demonstration of your idiocy, or more likely, your dishonesty

              so i won't call you dumb, i'll call you a weak troll

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                is calling a moronic bigot a moronic bigot unfair?

                if you say so

                i don't say so

                your comment is simply a demonstration of your idiocy, or more likely, your dishonesty

                so i won't call you dumb, i'll call you a weak troll

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                #22

                @benroyce @MasterMischief Calling Trump a moronic bigot is fine, dude loves the attention.

                Labeling millions upon millions of voters that have choice a between red or blue lies in the US bigots seems profoundly stupid, full on 'MERICA' nimby shit.

                I don't care if you call me a weak troll, you are helping me to understand the nuts & bolts of this US politics fueled echo chamber.

                I can chant 'orange man bad' with the best of them, but how these spaces evolve is of interest.

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                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                  Gotta say.. it's a good feeling to login on a social media network without Nazi's and trolls!

                  No MAGA nutjob in sight and the so called President would be instant banned if he showed his clown face here

                  goood stuff Fedi!

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                  #23

                  @stux

                  And thank you for great moderation on coffee social etc!

                  I never get 💩 in my coffee!

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                  • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce @MasterMischief Calling Trump a moronic bigot is fine, dude loves the attention.

                    Labeling millions upon millions of voters that have choice a between red or blue lies in the US bigots seems profoundly stupid, full on 'MERICA' nimby shit.

                    I don't care if you call me a weak troll, you are helping me to understand the nuts & bolts of this US politics fueled echo chamber.

                    I can chant 'orange man bad' with the best of them, but how these spaces evolve is of interest.

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                    #24

                    @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                    i still don't understand you

                    donald trump is president because millions voted for him (or didn't vote, but that's another topic)

                    why do you think that pretending there is no cause and effect here has probative value?

                    at best, you're simply demonstrating, and sticking to, a weak troll maneuver

                    at worst, you genuinely believe the pieces of shit that gave us donald trump are magically immune from criticism for that choice

                    why do you think that weak maneuver works?

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                      i still don't understand you

                      donald trump is president because millions voted for him (or didn't vote, but that's another topic)

                      why do you think that pretending there is no cause and effect here has probative value?

                      at best, you're simply demonstrating, and sticking to, a weak troll maneuver

                      at worst, you genuinely believe the pieces of shit that gave us donald trump are magically immune from criticism for that choice

                      why do you think that weak maneuver works?

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                      #25

                      @benroyce @MasterMischief again you are talking about fellow humans as pieces of shit, you are viewing those that don't swallow whatever politics you currently like as sub-human, or even sub-life.

                      I think Leo is is worse than Trump tbh, but I'm not gonna call every Roman Catholic a piece of shit moron.

                      Trump's big promise was no stupid foreign wars, but Trump's opinion about as relevant as yours for the war machine.

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                      • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce @MasterMischief again you are talking about fellow humans as pieces of shit, you are viewing those that don't swallow whatever politics you currently like as sub-human, or even sub-life.

                        I think Leo is is worse than Trump tbh, but I'm not gonna call every Roman Catholic a piece of shit moron.

                        Trump's big promise was no stupid foreign wars, but Trump's opinion about as relevant as yours for the war machine.

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                        #26

                        @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                        😂

                        my problem is i LOVE trolls

                        they're stupid, and fun

                        someone who is not familiar with your style of trolling would get angry and address your desperate grab bag of topic changes

                        bullshit hilarious assumptions that are only about you

                        allowing you to gloat as you run the game

                        it's quite simple how to handle your troll maneuver:

                        stick to the topic

                        do people who voted for trump deserve blame for trump?

                        yes or no

                        don't do the troll dance my friend, answer that

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                          😂

                          my problem is i LOVE trolls

                          they're stupid, and fun

                          someone who is not familiar with your style of trolling would get angry and address your desperate grab bag of topic changes

                          bullshit hilarious assumptions that are only about you

                          allowing you to gloat as you run the game

                          it's quite simple how to handle your troll maneuver:

                          stick to the topic

                          do people who voted for trump deserve blame for trump?

                          yes or no

                          don't do the troll dance my friend, answer that

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                          #27

                          @benroyce @MasterMischief

                          Different to the blood on the hands of anyone that has voted for US blue lies from the US war machine over the past few decades?

                          Seems like me saying anyone that voted Tory or Farrage here are no longer human instead of trying to understand how the fuck we got into this mess and why people prefer more blunt lies these days.

                          Americans deserve Trump: they built a system custom fit for him and he's winning it.

                          Change the system, attack the war machine.

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                          • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                            @benroyce @MasterMischief

                            Different to the blood on the hands of anyone that has voted for US blue lies from the US war machine over the past few decades?

                            Seems like me saying anyone that voted Tory or Farrage here are no longer human instead of trying to understand how the fuck we got into this mess and why people prefer more blunt lies these days.

                            Americans deserve Trump: they built a system custom fit for him and he's winning it.

                            Change the system, attack the war machine.

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                            #28

                            @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                            how do you attack the war machine?

                            rush US military bases?

                            lead the charge!

                            😂

                            no

                            what you do is you vote in the primaries, you get more mamdanis. you sustain. you eventually take over the govt

                            your problem is you look at the usa as a monolith

                            that's lazy bigotry

                            i myself criticize russia but never go after average russians (even though many are ethnofascists)

                            i even push back on those who do

                            if russia is to change we need those allies in russia

                            do you see?

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                              how do you attack the war machine?

                              rush US military bases?

                              lead the charge!

                              😂

                              no

                              what you do is you vote in the primaries, you get more mamdanis. you sustain. you eventually take over the govt

                              your problem is you look at the usa as a monolith

                              that's lazy bigotry

                              i myself criticize russia but never go after average russians (even though many are ethnofascists)

                              i even push back on those who do

                              if russia is to change we need those allies in russia

                              do you see?

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                              #29

                              @benroyce @MasterMischief Put the two party system in the bin.

                              If you look at the past few decades of warfare, financial corruption and stuff like the Epstein files it becomes rather clear it doesn't matter who is in charge: the wheels keep turning and they are fed on flesh and suffering.

                              Considering applying your Russian attitude to the USA: Never go after average US peeps or accounts, push back on those who do. If America needs to change, we need the people.

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                                #30

                                @hotelzululima @MasterMischief

                                1. it's been hired troll goons and hobbyist chuds for a long time now. but yes, a lot of trolling can be automated because it's simple sophistry. eventually plutocrat agendas will absolutely flood social media with AI shit and then we're doomed

                                2. no matter if AI script/ sincere moron/ human troll, it's still useful, enjoyable even, to exercise your brain and argue against the shit. to learn their agenda

                                but that's just me. most people agree it's a waste of time

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                                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                  Gotta say.. it's a good feeling to login on a social media network without Nazi's and trolls!

                                  No MAGA nutjob in sight and the so called President would be instant banned if he showed his clown face here

                                  goood stuff Fedi!

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                                  #31

                                  @stux There may not be any visible Nazi trolls other than on a few instances most other instances defederated a long time ago, but there are right-wing bastards on the Fediverse who stay below the radar, they're using large instances and not really breaking the rules so the mods can't kick them out. And they're following many leftists, archiving and screenshooting our posts, making lists, reporting people to the cops.

                                  If you want a real safe space on the Internet, you need to build a darknet one, running on hidden services only accessible through networks like Tor or I2P, where everyone is anonymous.

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                                  • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce @MasterMischief Put the two party system in the bin.

                                    If you look at the past few decades of warfare, financial corruption and stuff like the Epstein files it becomes rather clear it doesn't matter who is in charge: the wheels keep turning and they are fed on flesh and suffering.

                                    Considering applying your Russian attitude to the USA: Never go after average US peeps or accounts, push back on those who do. If America needs to change, we need the people.

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                                    #32

                                    @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                                    "Put the two party system in the bin"

                                    i stopped reading here

                                    HOW

                                    you can't sit there in your mind palace and make pointless declarations

                                    that doesn't mean shit

                                    you need to actually go out and make it happen

                                    which means we vote in the current shitty system, to put people in place to give us the better system

                                    stop being an edgelord vibing with:

                                    "this is wrong!" {thought process terminated}

                                    you need to then go out and fucking fix it with a coherent plan

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @stux

                                      you can still find #MAGA accounts on the fedi

                                      they are two day old accounts with no followers

                                      and when i find them, i report them, and *poof*

                                      bliss

                                      my only sadness is when, such as yesterday, i hit submit, and i got "record not found"

                                      because in the time between starting and ending my report, a mod had already taken care of them off of other people's reports

                                      and so:

                                      1. thank you #mods and #admins of the #fediverse

                                      2. thank you fellow mastodonics for using that report button

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                                      #33

                                      @benroyce @stux That's the special bit, as I see it: We are not magical, we don't have anti-nazi shields deployed.

                                      We just don't have algorithms that serve our desperation for profit at any cost, so each nazi that joins gets a few toots in before they are blocked/defederated to Plonkville where they belong.

                                      No algos = no gaming the algos.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                                        "Put the two party system in the bin"

                                        i stopped reading here

                                        HOW

                                        you can't sit there in your mind palace and make pointless declarations

                                        that doesn't mean shit

                                        you need to actually go out and make it happen

                                        which means we vote in the current shitty system, to put people in place to give us the better system

                                        stop being an edgelord vibing with:

                                        "this is wrong!" {thought process terminated}

                                        you need to then go out and fucking fix it with a coherent plan

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                                        #34

                                        @benroyce @MasterMischief best of luck with whatever you are doing, if you can get Trump in jail that would awesome, we are working on Prince Andrew.

                                        But, that's the second time you've said you are not capable of reading an entire toot which is so completely bizarre to me I suspect I am now just addressing the aether. If you are still hanging on in there like the shit bit at the end of return of the king, have a nice day.

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                                        • jamoquanty@mastodon.socialJ jamoquanty@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce @MasterMischief best of luck with whatever you are doing, if you can get Trump in jail that would awesome, we are working on Prince Andrew.

                                          But, that's the second time you've said you are not capable of reading an entire toot which is so completely bizarre to me I suspect I am now just addressing the aether. If you are still hanging on in there like the shit bit at the end of return of the king, have a nice day.

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                                          #35

                                          @jamoquanty @MasterMischief

                                          i am having an excellent day because i'm entertaining myself at your expense

                                          you're defending MAGA, which has given us all of the shit you complain about

                                          🤪

                                          so all i see before me is a weak, incoherent troll. you suck. and no, i'm not going to read all of your comments, because your "thoughts" are shit. i'm going to encounter a glob of shit, stop reading, pick it out, and laugh at it. and continue on my merry way

                                          stop being such a weak ass fucking troll

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