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  3. People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

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  • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

    People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

    After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

    Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

    Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

    Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

    #climatechange

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    @chu @theory I was confused about this at first because there was a mass shooting this morning in Germany

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    • jason@logoff.websiteJ jason@logoff.website

      @chu @theory I was confused about this at first because there was a mass shooting this morning in Germany

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      #15

      @jason @chu WAT

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      • mcjevans@hachyderm.ioM mcjevans@hachyderm.io

        @pelle @chu
        Sweden has the second-lowest CO2 emissions per capita among the IEA member countries.

        https://www.iea.org/countries/sweden/emissions

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        #16

        @mcjevans @chu
        yes, and IEA members are rich countries. #Sweden has almost 20 × the flesh consumption per capita of India. #Sweden "celebrated" #EarthOvershootDay on April 4th this year.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption

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        • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

          @pelle @chu A lot of people have personal vehicles, does that mean that policymakers and car manufacturers have no blame?

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          #17

          @PallasRiot @chu
          yes, car manufacturers and policymakers have a responsibilty for motorist supremacy, but you can't just buy an SUV and wash your hands: »why aren't the politicians doing anything about the climate?«

          driving is a choice. making that choice means being okay with flattening a certain amount of deer, rabbits, frogs, snakes, foxes, mice and badgers, and making the city streets unsafe for kids as well as grown ups, and polluting air and water with exhaust and microplastics.

          similarly, the US gun lobby has a responsibilty for gun violence, but that doesn't absolve the person who pulls the trigger.

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          • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

            People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

            After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

            Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

            Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

            Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

            #climatechange

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            #18

            @chu Yeah, we gave them the benefit of the doubt and didn't advocate immediately after a shooting...and they just did it anyway, sometimes within minutes of news breaking. My guess if your respective conservative/far-right party will do the same.

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            • fluttersh@pony.socialF fluttersh@pony.social

              @chu for real we need ACs in the building code here

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              #19

              @chu also airflow architecture so air doesn't stay stagnant in apartments

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              • susibryant@mastodon.socialS susibryant@mastodon.social

                @mcjevans @pelle @chu
                Thank you for fact checking.

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                #20

                @Susibryant @mcjevans @pelle @chu
                The poll, where 99% of swedes responded that they eat animals, is from March 2026: https://www.svtplay.se/video/K1qQgnn/skavlan-och-sverige-1/skulle-du-lagt-algen-i-ambulansen

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                • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                  People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                  After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                  Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                  Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                  Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                  #climatechange

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                  #21

                  @chu sadly a prophetical post given the shooting in Stade, Germany.

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                  • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

                    @jason @chu WAT

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                    #22

                    @theory
                    It was not in a school, but in a youth center.
                    But anyways, 6 are dead. (all adults)
                    2 have been arrested.
                    there will be a press-conference at 19.30
                    edit: corrected the time for the press conference

                    https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/liveticker-zu-stade-sechste-person-stirbt-nach-schuessen-in-jugendeinrichtung,stade-150.html

                    @jason @chu

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                    • catflyhigh@troet.cafeC catflyhigh@troet.cafe

                      @theory
                      It was not in a school, but in a youth center.
                      But anyways, 6 are dead. (all adults)
                      2 have been arrested.
                      there will be a press-conference at 19.30
                      edit: corrected the time for the press conference

                      https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/liveticker-zu-stade-sechste-person-stirbt-nach-schuessen-in-jugendeinrichtung,stade-150.html

                      @jason @chu

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                      #23

                      @catflyhigh @jason @chu Jesus

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                      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                        @chu
                        here in #sweden, 99% of humans eat animals, so it appears that the overwhelming majority would rather have deadly #heatwaves than #vegan hotdogs.

                        sure, blame #politicians for their actions. but a people, who want to eat butchered animals, will obviously elect politicians who allow for #slaughterhouses to exist. it's not like the politicians aren't listening here.
                        https://watchdominion.org

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                        #24

                        @pelle@veganism.social

                        people being animals who need to eat food is not the cause of global climate change & your derail is probably unhelpful

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                        • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

                          @catflyhigh @jason @chu Jesus

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                          #25

                          @theory @catflyhigh @jason

                          Sorry.
                          I posted this before this happened. I didn't mean for it to sting quite like that.

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                          • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                            @theory @catflyhigh @jason

                            Sorry.
                            I posted this before this happened. I didn't mean for it to sting quite like that.

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                            #26

                            @chu @catflyhigh @jason Of course, bad timing is all

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                            • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                              @PallasRiot @chu
                              yes, car manufacturers and policymakers have a responsibilty for motorist supremacy, but you can't just buy an SUV and wash your hands: »why aren't the politicians doing anything about the climate?«

                              driving is a choice. making that choice means being okay with flattening a certain amount of deer, rabbits, frogs, snakes, foxes, mice and badgers, and making the city streets unsafe for kids as well as grown ups, and polluting air and water with exhaust and microplastics.

                              similarly, the US gun lobby has a responsibilty for gun violence, but that doesn't absolve the person who pulls the trigger.

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                              #27

                              @pelle @chu I think the absurdity of your response kind of makes my point for me lol

                              You can be as upset as you want at individual motorists, and they will continue to need to get to work. Individual consumptive choices are seldom a very coherent or organized form of political expression.

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                              • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

                                @pelle @chu I think the absurdity of your response kind of makes my point for me lol

                                You can be as upset as you want at individual motorists, and they will continue to need to get to work. Individual consumptive choices are seldom a very coherent or organized form of political expression.

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                                #28

                                @PallasRiot @chu
                                lol what a motor brained response

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                                • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                                  @pelle@veganism.social

                                  people being animals who need to eat food is not the cause of global climate change & your derail is probably unhelpful

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                                  #29

                                  @peachfront
                                  lol, #vegans are not against food.
                                  you're mixing up #veganism and #breathatarianism.
                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia

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                                  • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

                                    @chu @catflyhigh @jason Of course, bad timing is all

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                                    #30

                                    @theory @chu @catflyhigh oh of course. I’m just in Europe at the moment and saw the German news first so the opener felt a little close to current events

                                    Totally agree on the framing though! “Our country just had over a thousand heat deaths” should be an embarrassment resulting in huge government spending to address the problem. It’s negligent, IMO

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                                    • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                                      People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                                      After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                                      Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                                      Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                                      Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                                      #climatechange

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                                      #31

                                      @chu If I die in a heat wave someday y’all have full permission to politicize the hell out of my death.

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                                      • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                                        People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                                        After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                                        Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                                        Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                                        Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                                        #climatechange

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                                        #32

                                        @chu 1) Germany is a country, it's not the whole of Europe. 2) The only country that seems to tolerate mass shootings is the US. Can't speak for Germany, but anytime this happens in Canada, gun regulations tighten to make it more difficult for the next one. Our problem is the @#%$@#%@#%$@ lax gun laws in the US and those guns making it across the border. 😞

                                        "Germany has very strict gun laws, among the strictest in Europe."

                                        https://www.dw.com/en/germany-at-least-6-killed-in-shooting-in-stade/a-77754951

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                                        • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                                          People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                                          After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                                          Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                                          Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                                          Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                                          #climatechange

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                                          #33

                                          @chu heat death should be made political, but why american shootings shouldnt? is there some sarcasm i dont get?

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