Alright now that I shared my awesome new job, I can finally share with you how moving abroad is going.

[spiezmaestro@social.spiezmaestro.ch]

@Gina Bern and <500K would have been a challenge.

[daleninar@mastodon.sdf.org]

@Gina The area of "Campo de Turia" is nice, and near Valencia in Spain. Small towns but around 25km from the city and close to the airport

[elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social]

@Gina If a lot of us pool our resources, maybe we can start a new tech community somewhere nice

[gina@fosstodon.org]

@elricofmelnibone ooh lets go to one of the abandoned villages in Italy!

[ryzokuken@mastodon.social]

@Gina the north of Spain is awesome and feels like the perfect balance in terms of weather and nature

[ryzokuken@mastodon.social]

@Gina Galicia or Basque Country should fit that description for the most part. I'm totally biased but check out A Coruña

[gina@fosstodon.org]

@ryzokuken I'm considering visiting Bilbao and San Sebastian in september. Does it really rain all the time there? 🥲

[neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk]

@Gina

Milton Keynes looking ever more attractive, I imagine.

[renatoram@fosstodon.org]

@Gina Italy has been experiencing levels of emigration similar to the late 1800s and early 1900s waves (I am also an Italian emigrant), for at least a decade.

The press and politics seem to refuse to mention it, but... the Italians that can, go away (not all, but... many).

(my info/numbers might be old/wrong, willing to hear otherwise by anyone that is better informed. Anecdotally, I know serveral that moved abroad just in my circle of friends, unrelated to my job)

[ryzokuken@mastodon.social]

@Gina it rains quite a bit relatively but the cities are designed very well to avoid any serious issues and usually its a bit of a drizzle anyway.

Think more of constant grey humid drizzle than actual raindrops...

[yngmar@social.tchncs.de]

@Gina Italy is wonderful except for the bureaucracy, which is inefficient and random.

Also some people have a strange hobby called "denunciare"

Wouldn't disregard it though.

Spain has virtually free housing in remote areas of Galicia, which is quite a nice area. Of course that's because the towns are being abandoned.

[castrillo@mastodon.online]

@Gina @_elena @marcel interesting I will share you a point from my exp. If you like good quality ( general speaking ) and easy to find: go to Italy - if you like more tech community go to Barcelona. From my point Girona is to small at all aspects. ( I live in BCN since 2016 ) my family is half Italian. Other good point is if you need move forward your business by using good places, community, networking, etc I think Spain wins here.

[travisfw@fosstodon.org]

@albertcardona @Gina got hackers?

[vickyjo@mastodon.social]

@Gina Aside from the house prices, Switzerland (I was in Lausanne) ticks those boxes.
Across the lake is still lovely (Evian), but you mentioned France was out.

[Gæst]

@Gina not sure that emigrants are the best people to ask...

I left Germany in 1998, I would never go back for a variety of reasons, but I would also say: I have reasons, but they may not apply to you, so better not ask me.

[elricofmelnibone@mastodon.social]

@Gina If it weren't for Brexit, I would seriously consider moving back to Wales. Doesn't quite tick all the boxes, but a majority of them.

[egonw@mastodon.social]

@Gina @_elena @marcel maybe the NL can give you a huge tax break if you stay in rainy NL?

[travisfw@fosstodon.org]

@yngmar @Gina I am crashing Gina's search because I am searching too, with apparently most of the same priorities.
Italy is a whole country. There has to be a nice town with hackers in it.
I have also considered Galicia.

[gina@fosstodon.org]

@travisfw @yngmar yay "gedeelde smart is halve smart" (shared pain is half the pain) as we say in Dutch 🫶

[vincenttunru@fosstodon.org]

@Gina Possibly the only way to get a sub-€500k house with a garden.