Happy ninth Mastodon Won't Survive Day to all who celebrate!https://mashable.com/article/mastodon-wont-survive

[bodhipaksa@mastodon.scot]

@rysiek What a terrible article. It doesn't even give credit to John Mastodon for creating this site in the first place!

[cass_m@socialbc.ca]

@moses_izumi I had assumed it was because of difficulty monetizing but data breech makes sense.

[mcm_63@mastodon.uno]

@rysiek

„Unless someone buys the code off Rochko today and consolidates this mess ASAP, it can't survive.“

[eeveecraft@dragonscave.space]

@rysiek

Welp, he was wrong about Mastodon fizzling out in two weeks, but the one thing he wasn't wrong about was Mastodon growing stagnant. Mastodon's sat at the same active user counts for a while and it's plateau'd. The platform hasn't seen any significant growth since the 2022 Twitter exodus, and though growth obviously isn't everything, Mastodon remains relatively niche.

Still, funny reading about this dude just having a massive skill-issue with using Mastodon.

#Mastodon #Twitter #FediMeta

[kichae@wanderingadventure.party]

Cass Well, the breech probably happened because Google dropped all investment in it. So, it’s all sort of the same thing, I’m sure.

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@Eeveecraft counterpoint: https://pluralistic.net/tag/scalloped-growth/

[seyd@declin.eu]

Извините, вы заблокированы.

[ozzelot@mstdn.social]

@bodhipaksa @rysiek John Mastodon sadly had to wait over five more years to get proper credit. A disgrace, truly.

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@quinn I don't think growth for growth's sake is the way to go, and while it does provide *a* signal, it is not *the* signal so to speak.

I fully expect Bluesky to start enshittifying, because of course they will with their cryptocurrency bro overlords looking for payout eventually.

Meanwhile fedi is doing its thing, getting more resilient, easier to join, dealing with some long-term issues around moderation and so on. And will be there, better prepared than ever, for the next wave.

[dgodon@mastodon.online]

@rysiek some of the criticisms seem legit and still pose challenges. And it got a pretty good boost from the birdsite imploding. But I’m glad to see it still going and slowly improving. So nice to have a non commercial social media space!

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@dgodon move slow and gradually improve things.

[dank@jorts.horse]

@rysiek

1. Terrible name

lol

"Lance Ulanoff was Chief Correspondent and Editor-at-Large of Mashable"

[haunted_refrigerator@theforkiverse.com]

@rysiek Ha ha ha ha ha ha...solid!

[wanwizard@mastodon.scot]

@rysiek LanceUlanoff: "This profile has been hidden by the moderators of mastodon.scot."

[eeveecraft@dragonscave.space]

@rysiek

Counterpoint: that article is over three years old and was written not long after the Twitter exodus. That doesn't counter my point that the platform has plateau'd in terms of active users:

https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon

https://joinmastodon.org/servers

https://fediverse.observer/stats&months=96

Estimates range from ~750k - 1m monthly active users, and I know it's been sitting at that for a while because I occasionally check in with FediDB. Monthly active users has been coasting around 1.1m - 1.2m for over a year now. Mastodon Analytics show that the monthly active user count is currently coasting downwards when zoomed all the way out:

https://mastodon-analytics.com/

Server counts have also been decreasing.

[stadtkind@chaos.social]

mastodon is the level of petty I aspire to

[rysiek@mstdn.social]

@Eeveecraft the point that piece is making is: such numbers do not mean "stagnation".

Mastodon (the project) has overhauled it's management structure at long last and for the better, implemented a lot of functionalities people have been asking for years for (quote-toots, grouped notifications, many others).

Fediverse (the community) understands itself better, has done a lot of work around becoming a more friendly place for newcomers – and that work continues.

Fedi is anything but stagnant.

[foundseed@spore.social]

@mxchara @RoyHorace @rysiek I for one am not glad to have the abusive Trekkie still on this platform. Shatner is an asshole but at least he's not an accused sex pest.

[eeveecraft@dragonscave.space]

@rysiek If you interpret the word, "Stagnant," like that, sure, but that's not what I mean by stagnant, and I thought that was pretty clear with the arguments and links I provided.

I mean stagnant in terms of growth, and I am talking about Mastodon specifically, we're not talking about the Fediverse in general. Where did I mention the Fediverse as a whole and not Mastodon?

[steeph@queerchen.de]

@dec23k It was great in the beginning. What I liked most about it was how communities formed by people sharing circles when that feature was introduced. You could share a circle if no more than 2000 people/accounts were in it. And people could choose to follow those up to 2000 people. There were a lot of circles going around with "people who regularly post on [TOPIC]". So you could follow those 300 or 800 accounts by putting them in their own circle and if you didn't like some of them, you'd remove those as they kept posting stuff you weren't interested in. I was in several such circles and I followed several of them. This shaped fan communities very fluently because everybody had a their own set of fans on a TV show, for example.

I had >1000 followers because of that and it was the most active platform I've ever been a part of, while one article after another kept coming out about how nobody ever posts anything of G+. The discrepancy between my experience and the public opinion was incredible and extreme.

But then they added "Communities" which were like groups on any other social platform and everybody started posting to those instead of to their personal timeline when they posted about things for which a community existed. And so everybody had to either pick one or a few communities or miss out on posts about their favourite TV show. That was the start of the end of it for me. @rysiek @chrisp