When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.
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@crazyeddie @GutterPoetry @jascha now, derptron, if you wish to call me an ass because of that point, that's on you.
At least you did not call me a misogynist. That was the obvious trap.
Misogyny exists. The problem is what needs to be addressed regardless of intent, and that is bigger than all of us.
Good talk.
@knowprose I believe it's a systemic vs individual issue thing. Systemic bias is not intentional, but also harder to spot than individual prejudice. Like how me and many other women who consider themselves modern feminists still perpetuate(d) a "deal with it" attitude regarding period pain, which discourages those with very painful cysts and endometriosis from seeking diagnosis. Not intentional, but we need to do better
I'm sorry to hear about your father and hope he still could get treatment.
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@diazona @dougiec3 @jascha Not just cancer either. It’s kind of a general things. Yes it’s tongue in cheek
But it’s why there’s phases etc. I don’t think most are aware of how medical research works, they just see the (BS) headlines.(I don’t have the know how to understand medical research etc. Just know a bit about parts of the process as a guinea pig.)
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@diazona @dougiec3 @jascha Not just cancer either. It’s kind of a general things. Yes it’s tongue in cheek
But it’s why there’s phases etc. I don’t think most are aware of how medical research works, they just see the (BS) headlines.(I don’t have the know how to understand medical research etc. Just know a bit about parts of the process as a guinea pig.)
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha
Dont look up or Idiocracy?
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha Today I learned I'm a scientist.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
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@jascha TBH, I've never heard the phrase "Scientists do not want you to know" spoken or written before today.
Joys of picking and choosing my life in a sane community/city/state/family.@joemug @jascha it's a big thing on most social media/youtube. Make some extreme claim of some miracle product that "scientists have been hiding" to sell some snakeoil through an affiliate link or personal store, or just completely made up for the views and ad revenue.
You can also replace scientist with "gardener", "mechanic" whatever and see much the same, and the related "I stopped going to the store/etc and do X instead" tagline.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha I recently heard about Radiation Hormesis, or the theory (as in scientific theory backed by data and currently under testing and review) that some radiation in your environment is actually good because it stimulates DNA repair mechanisms that also tend to catch and repair DNA damage from other causes like oxidative stress.
They badly want you to know, you can google Radiation Hormesis... But they also want you to know that the data isn't quite fully in yet.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
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@csolisr I've never personally experienced or even remotely heard of a funder trying to influence the results of a study (and been a scientist for about 15 years now). I'm sure it can happen but it will be a negligible minority.
@elduvelle @csolisr Influencing the results is one thing, but there is definitely a bias in funding bodies towards funding research that will show short-term economic benefit over research that will have longer-term or non-economic benefit.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha
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@arendjr @jascha I can think of no reason why a computer scientist wouldn't want you to understand quantum computers. There's furthermore plenty of stuff you can read online about them. You can dig into all the theory and learn quite a lot.
What makes you think we want to hide this knowledge from you? It's not like you can go build a quantum computer and accidentally everyone into dust or puddles of bio remnant goo.
@crazyeddie @jascha probably the same reason why native developers might not want you to learn about web development… they might fear their career is in jeopardy if another technology overtakes theirs…
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha @coral tbf, there are scientists who get secretive but it's usually when other scientists are around who are known to steal ideas and take credit. For example Watson and Crick and how they seriously screwed over Rosalind Franklin. I think if Franklin had known what would happen maybe it would have been right for her to be more cagey.
But in general, yeah. I'm not even a practicing scientist but I still remember the shape of the curve that was key to my graduate research project and will still talk about it 20 years later.
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@anatomical_normalcy @RogerBW @jascha you don't need to debunk flat earth. It's perfectly fine, you'll just have to deal with a horrible geometry and a lot of additional assumptions to compensate for your shitty model 🧚
Aaand: as a local approximation it's killer
@gsc @anatomical_normalcy @RogerBW @jascha When I was at uni I joked about forming the locally flat earth society
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@jascha Scientists don't want you to know about Roko's Basilisk.
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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.
@jascha that implies that they believe all scientists are somehow a hive mind or heavily centralized, both of which are wrong. It's just a projection of how they run their organization.
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@jascha that implies that they believe all scientists are somehow a hive mind or heavily centralized, both of which are wrong. It's just a projection of how they run their organization.
@nlupo no it does not. Take a joke as a joke and do not read more in it as there is. Gosh, your post makes me hate the fediverse
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@nlupo no it does not. Take a joke as a joke and do not read more in it as there is. Gosh, your post makes me hate the fediverse
@jascha Then I don't get your joke, but fair enough.
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@crazyeddie @jascha probably the same reason why native developers might not want you to learn about web development… they might fear their career is in jeopardy if another technology overtakes theirs…
