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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

    https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

    fuckin

    staticr@guild.pmdcollab.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @davidgerard I absolutely do not under any circumstance want my precious write cycles of my overpriced SSD wasted on an oversized slop machine that struggles at completing simple tasks while maxing out my power bill

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

      https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

      fuckin

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      #8

      note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

      custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

      (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

      this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

      also this abstract was written with a chatbot

      dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dmitrylitosh@mastodon.socialD zzt@mas.toZ jackemled@furry.engineerJ davidgerard@circumstances.runD 8 Replies Last reply
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      • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

        @davidgerard "A desktop that loves you back has to know you."

        "desktop that loves you back"

        ... do they want a relationship with their desktop via a chatbot?

        what the fuck

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        #9

        @lumi @zzt @davidgerard spoken like someone who isn't fucking their desktop

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

          custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

          (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

          this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

          also this abstract was written with a chatbot

          dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @davidgerard you know there are incredible opportunities available for productive LLM use when they resort to pointless ideas.

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

            https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

            fuckin

            elliessurviving@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @davidgerard oh god fuck no not kde, fuck fuck fuck

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

              https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

              fuckin

              luna@lunar.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              @davidgerard@circumstances.run i hope that talk does not go well

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

                custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

                (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

                this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

                also this abstract was written with a chatbot

                dmitrylitosh@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @davidgerard sir we have custom desktops, its called compiz for gnome 2.0, please follow me to this room please

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

                  custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

                  (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

                  this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

                  also this abstract was written with a chatbot

                  zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  @davidgerard > custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

                  the codegooners keep promising this with LLMs

                  I actually do this! people are gonna fucking hate it if I ever release it because it turns your whole environment into an editor, but unlike the LLM bros I’m realistic about what fucking software looks like

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                  • skyfaller@jawns.clubS skyfaller@jawns.club

                    @lumi @zzt @davidgerard spoken like someone who isn't fucking their desktop

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                    #15

                    @skyfaller @zzt @davidgerard so sad that computers don't have cd-rom drives anymore...

                    mensrea@freeradical.zoneM laru@pleroma.laru.dsrv.x7q.euL desantis@mastodon.bida.imD 3 Replies Last reply
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                    • librarysquirrel@sunny.gardenL librarysquirrel@sunny.garden

                      @davidgerard "Oh and btw what if we broke all your desktops and turned you into UI guinea pigs. I would be chased away from MS or Apple but Linux users have little power so look, what if!!!":
                      https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/332/

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                      #16

                      @librarysquirrel @davidgerard

                      "[...] turned you into UI guinea pigs".

                      Yeah... I thought that was Gnome's job?!?

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                        https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                        fuckin

                        lproven@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #17

                        @davidgerard

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                        • fred@social.fthevenet.euF fred@social.fthevenet.eu

                          @librarysquirrel @davidgerard

                          "[...] turned you into UI guinea pigs".

                          Yeah... I thought that was Gnome's job?!?

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                          #18

                          @fred @davidgerard division of labour struggles in the FOSS world I reckon...

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                            https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                            fuckin

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                            #19
                            @davidgerard
                            > what would it take for KDE to be the desktop people actively choose, not just the one some of us settle for?

                            I do just love the lack of self-awareness in this sentence, this conference talk is the exact answer to the opposite question. Plenty of people actively stay away from software that's "AI-native", so AI is clearly not the answer to making a desktop people would actively choose.
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                            • ozzelot@snac.sklenicekrtku.czO ozzelot@snac.sklenicekrtku.cz
                              @davidgerard@circumstances.run
                              I like and currently use KDE.

                              I don't want my desktop to love me. I want it to launch and organize programs, notify me of things, and not get in the goddamn way.
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                              #20

                              @ozzelot @davidgerard as a kde user myself, exactly the same

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                                https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                                fuckin

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                                #21

                                @davidgerard no no no no, not like this...

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                                • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                  @skyfaller @zzt @davidgerard so sad that computers don't have cd-rom drives anymore...

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                                  #22

                                  @lumi @skyfaller @davidgerard @zzt some fun trivia: in south africa 3.5in floppies used to be called stiffy disks. so we had stiffy drives. was good times

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                                    https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                                    fuckin

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                                    #23

                                    @davidgerard

                                    sir i dont want my desktop
                                    to „love me back“ - the thing i love (haha) about computers is that they can be (totally in theory, sometimes it happens actually in practice) deterministic without emotional baggage and all the complications it usually brings…

                                    actually my love here is totally NOT unconditional but hard bound to the thing to work and not annoy or surprise me

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

                                      custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

                                      (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

                                      this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

                                      also this abstract was written with a chatbot

                                      jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #24

                                      @davidgerard "custom compiled desktops for ever user"
                                      That sounds like some shit suckless would do. I use Plasma because I don't want to deal with that!

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                                        https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                                        fuckin

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                                        #25

                                        @davidgerard
                                        @kde Please no.
                                        I don't need a desktop to "love me". I need it to work reliably.
                                        I don't need a desktop to "know me better". I need it to respect my settings, my privacy and my compute.

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                                        • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                                          @davidgerard "custom compiled desktops for ever user"
                                          That sounds like some shit suckless would do. I use Plasma because I don't want to deal with that!

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                                          #26

                                          @jackemled @davidgerard I don't think they mean literally compiled (given that they talk about Activities, Plasmoids, etc), I think they mean "custom configuration".
                                          But siccing an LLM onto a visual language is the last thing I'd wanna do. Remember Claude Design?

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