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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    @bms @zzt

    me: I wonder how TDE's going
    me: oh no

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    #37

    @bms @zzt i think CDE might be clear

    zzt@mas.toZ pablobm@metalhead.clubP fred@social.fthevenet.euF gemini0@labyrinth.zoneG 4 Replies Last reply
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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      @bms @zzt i think CDE might be clear

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      #38

      @davidgerard @bms embrace emacs

      the weirder the better

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

        https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

        fuckin

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        #39

        @davidgerard I mean, who wrote this? 🤣

        Did they blow their tokens before they got to the Description section?

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

          https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

          fuckin

          nicovel0@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #40

          @davidgerard *infinite scream *

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

            https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

            fuckin

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            #41

            @davidgerard please not @kde too, i'm so fucking tired

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              @davidgerard @bms embrace emacs

              the weirder the better

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              #42

              @zzt @davidgerard @bms stop giving me reasons to learn emacs, i have work to do

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              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                @davidgerard @bms embrace emacs

                the weirder the better

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                #43

                @zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                  https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                  fuckin

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                  #44

                  @davidgerard A "sovereign" desktop. Barf.

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                  • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                    @zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.

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                    #45

                    @zzt @davidgerard @jwz Come to think of it, when KScope was my go-to IDE for FreeBSD kernel hacking, I picked that habit up from Robert Watson, and that was KDE 3.x era. Is fork-and-de-slop-as-a-service the future of AI-free FLOSS?

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                    • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      @zzt @davidgerard Yeah I'm not quite down with the @jwz Lucid era emacs-as-operating-system thing having always been a vim (now vim-classic) person. But KDE was the last kosher FLOSS desktop environment to me, GNOME has never appealed to me and I always sought to get rid of it. Even 2014 era MacOS X seems unbearable now. I'm reduced to using an unpatched (apart from ExplorerPatcher and other niknaks) Win11 kickabout laptop with a dead battery which never leaves the house, from which I evicted WSL2 months ago, and hosts ssh sessions to my FreeBSD and Rocky boxes with my IRIX 5.3-era style Windows Console config.

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                      #46

                      @bms @davidgerard @jwz great news! emacs is a vim too

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                      • mensrea@freeradical.zoneM mensrea@freeradical.zone

                        @zzt @davidgerard @bms stop giving me reasons to learn emacs, i have work to do

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                        #47

                        @mensrea @zzt @davidgerard @bms Yes. Yes you do. And that work is getting your configuration *just exactly right*. Jooooin ussss.

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                          https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                          fuckin

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                          #48

                          @davidgerard WTF!? #kde

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                            https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                            fuckin

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                            #49

                            @davidgerard
                            Maybe I go (went, I'm retired) to the wrong conferences but I've never come across an abstract that gave me the creeps. Until now.

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                            • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                              @davidgerard "A desktop that loves you back has to know you."

                              "desktop that loves you back"

                              ... do they want a relationship with their desktop via a chatbot?

                              what the fuck

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                              #50

                              @lumi @davidgerard all the references and social links are linkedin links lol

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?

                                because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith

                                and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package

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                                #51

                                @davidgerard I'm so tired. Every single day a new bit of bad news.

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                                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                  but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?

                                  because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith

                                  and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package

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                                  #52

                                  @davidgerard No no no. Please not KDE too 😭

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                                  • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                    @skyfaller @zzt @davidgerard so sad that computers don't have cd-rom drives anymore...

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                                    #53
                                    @lumi @skyfaller @davidgerard @zzt i have no mouth and i must stream
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                                    • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      @davidgerard @zzt The appropriate cutscene now would seem to be Lt. Gorman in "Aliens" (1986) spouting "Ahhhhh shit." and ordering his marines to fall back and use the incinerators.

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                                      #54

                                      @bms @davidgerard @zzt Or when Ripley says to “nuke the site from orbit”, as it is the only way to be sure…

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

                                        custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

                                        (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

                                        this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

                                        also this abstract was written with a chatbot

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                                        #55

                                        @davidgerard custom compiled desktops for every user that wants one (Gentoo) rejected slop already

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                                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                          KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                                          https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                                          fuckin

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                                          #56

                                          @davidgerard I'm not nearly as techy as most of you all, and I don't really know exactly what this means, but this just sounds...wrong.

                                          "Personal AI has crossed the threshold where the desktop itself can be compiled per user, per device, per moment, from a small portable model of the user..." 🤔

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