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  3. Just so you know, using an AI notetaker during a meeting without priorly asking for consent from all participants before starting it breaches many if not most privacy laws around the world.

Just so you know, using an AI notetaker during a meeting without priorly asking for consent from all participants before starting it breaches many if not most privacy laws around the world.

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    Just so you know, using an AI notetaker during a meeting without priorly asking for consent from all participants before starting it breaches many if not most privacy laws around the world.

    In certain cases, it can even breach two-party consent laws, and be a criminal act.

    Ideally, never use these privacy-invasive tools ever. But if you do use them, you must ask for everyone's consent first, and respect their choice fully if they refuse to be recorded.

    #Privacy #AInotetakers #NoAI

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    #40

    @Em0nM4stodon
    Everyday discovering a new stupid AI tool of fuckery for systematic mass surrendering

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      #41

      @rainynight65 @Em0nM4stodon
      Yeah, that’s tech SOP for consent to EULAs. I can’t read the damn things because the text is too small and I can’t find a way to change the font size.

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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        Just so you know, using an AI notetaker during a meeting without priorly asking for consent from all participants before starting it breaches many if not most privacy laws around the world.

        In certain cases, it can even breach two-party consent laws, and be a criminal act.

        Ideally, never use these privacy-invasive tools ever. But if you do use them, you must ask for everyone's consent first, and respect their choice fully if they refuse to be recorded.

        #Privacy #AInotetakers #NoAI

        rzeta0@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #42

        @Em0nM4stodon

        do we have privacy in a work context?

        i'm not so sure

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        • rzeta0@mastodon.ieR rzeta0@mastodon.ie

          @Em0nM4stodon

          do we have privacy in a work context?

          i'm not so sure

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          #43

          @rzeta0 In many jurisdictions, yes.

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            Just so you know, using an AI notetaker during a meeting without priorly asking for consent from all participants before starting it breaches many if not most privacy laws around the world.

            In certain cases, it can even breach two-party consent laws, and be a criminal act.

            Ideally, never use these privacy-invasive tools ever. But if you do use them, you must ask for everyone's consent first, and respect their choice fully if they refuse to be recorded.

            #Privacy #AInotetakers #NoAI

            liquor_american@universeodon.comL This user is from outside of this forum
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            liquor_american@universeodon.com
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            #44

            @Em0nM4stodon Just pretend you have an LG TV and everything'll work out

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            • feld@friedcheese.usF feld@friedcheese.us
              @Em0nM4stodon

              > I am a privacy professional

              great so we've established you have no legal training, so let's armchair lawyer this together

              Now why is the AI transcription service suddenly a special threat (many are contractually ZDR, so they record nothing anyway) but Zoom isn't? Or how about whoever the phone company is that's running the conference bridge? They can record the conversations too.

              Your justification here is "I don't like the technology". Well if I don't like that the meeting is being recorded with a Sony Digital Voice Recorder because I have a grudge against Sony, I don't have "special rights" to demand that some other technology be used for this purpose.

              And as for the legal side:

              First, your company probably has something in their employee handbook like "employees should have no expectation of privacy in work related areas.". There is case law for this. Break rooms, bathrooms, and locker rooms are off limits for recording.

              Secondly, let's look at Washington State as an example. This is a two-party consent state. Here's the law:

              https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.73.030

              Nothing in here fits your claims. This is about private conversations. A work meeting is not a private conversation in a private location. The legal hurdle you need to get over is if it's a "surreptitious recording". An AI service doing meeting transcriptions is not a "surreptitious recording".
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              #45

              @feld
              Why do you think notetakers are only used during distant meetings? https://www.reddit.com/r/NoteTaking/comments/1tdv72a/tested_a_few_ai_note_takers_for_meetings_heres/
              @Em0nM4stodon

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                Just so you know, using an AI notetaker during a meeting without priorly asking for consent from all participants before starting it breaches many if not most privacy laws around the world.

                In certain cases, it can even breach two-party consent laws, and be a criminal act.

                Ideally, never use these privacy-invasive tools ever. But if you do use them, you must ask for everyone's consent first, and respect their choice fully if they refuse to be recorded.

                #Privacy #AInotetakers #NoAI

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                #46

                @Em0nM4stodon if that were to happen at my workplace, we'd immediately have to report it to the Bundesdatenschutzbeauftragte as a data security incident. Our privacy and data protection law specialist would not only have a field day, he'd probably have a field month. Considering the gross negligence of the act, especially considering the sensitivity of data in question, the perpretator might get jailtime with pretty serious charges, plus i can imagine the incident getting national headlines.

                Dear AI bros, I know this is especially tricky for you lot, but please think before you act.

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                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                  Just so you know, using an AI notetaker during a meeting without priorly asking for consent from all participants before starting it breaches many if not most privacy laws around the world.

                  In certain cases, it can even breach two-party consent laws, and be a criminal act.

                  Ideally, never use these privacy-invasive tools ever. But if you do use them, you must ask for everyone's consent first, and respect their choice fully if they refuse to be recorded.

                  #Privacy #AInotetakers #NoAI

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                  #47

                  @Em0nM4stodon can we talk about consent in a professional context with per pressure?

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                  • lucydev@wetdry.worldL lucydev@wetdry.world

                    @Em0nM4stodon if that were to happen at my workplace, we'd immediately have to report it to the Bundesdatenschutzbeauftragte as a data security incident. Our privacy and data protection law specialist would not only have a field day, he'd probably have a field month. Considering the gross negligence of the act, especially considering the sensitivity of data in question, the perpretator might get jailtime with pretty serious charges, plus i can imagine the incident getting national headlines.

                    Dear AI bros, I know this is especially tricky for you lot, but please think before you act.

                    em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #48

                    @lucydev That sounds like a great place to work at 💚

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                    • jeffmcneill@hachyderm.ioJ jeffmcneill@hachyderm.io

                      @anolandria @dalias you can use AI for those notes, apparently

                      mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #49

                      @jeffmcneill careful, your "straw man arguments" are indistinguishable from actual arguing for fashtech

                      @anolandria @dalias

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                      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                        @sharpcheddargoblin @Em0nM4stodon Legitimate transcription for accessibility requires a local speech to text engine with no persistent recording of the input. Which already existed before "AI". Trying to use this as a lever to get "AI" in the door is entirely bad-faith.

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                        #50

                        @dalias @Em0nM4stodon @sharpcheddargoblin and AIUI the LLMs currently marketed as "AI" are not even good at this (just "cheap", modulo power/water/rare elements/labour/work use)

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