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  3. Some of you have been asking why the #EU digital policy account isn't on the #Fediverse..

Some of you have been asking why the #EU digital policy account isn't on the #Fediverse..

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  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    hpod16@eupolicy.social
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    #1

    Some of you have been asking why the #EU digital policy account isn't on the #Fediverse..
    Well, today they are! Go follow the official #DigitalEU account: @digitaleu for updates about #OpenSource, #Tech and #DigitalSovereignty, and much more!
    Today is a good day for the open source community. Stay tuned for more announcements.

    jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ paelnever@masto.esP tony_meredith@mastodon.me.ukT 6 Replies Last reply
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    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

      Some of you have been asking why the #EU digital policy account isn't on the #Fediverse..
      Well, today they are! Go follow the official #DigitalEU account: @digitaleu for updates about #OpenSource, #Tech and #DigitalSovereignty, and much more!
      Today is a good day for the open source community. Stay tuned for more announcements.

      jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jan@social.dytrych.cloud
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      #2

      @hpod16 @digitaleu nice, following! Thanks

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      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

        Some of you have been asking why the #EU digital policy account isn't on the #Fediverse..
        Well, today they are! Go follow the official #DigitalEU account: @digitaleu for updates about #OpenSource, #Tech and #DigitalSovereignty, and much more!
        Today is a good day for the open source community. Stay tuned for more announcements.

        zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
        zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
        zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
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        #3
        @hpod16 With their age verification laws they wanna set etc?
        For news about more dystopia as an ICE like agency?
        For other nonsensical laws that just benefit the wealthy or for what?
        No thank you for your endorsement.
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        • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
          @hpod16 With their age verification laws they wanna set etc?
          For news about more dystopia as an ICE like agency?
          For other nonsensical laws that just benefit the wealthy or for what?
          No thank you for your endorsement.
          hpod16@eupolicy.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
          hpod16@eupolicy.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
          hpod16@eupolicy.social
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          #4

          @zer0unplanned
          Look, I understand wanting to be critical, but feel free to be constructive too!
          The EU is not a dictatorship, and there are many ways that you can get involved and voice your views.
          You could launch a #EuropeanCitizenInitiative, or support an existing one, check the #HaveYourSay portal for open public consultations on topics you care about, or start a discussion thread on the #CitizenEngagementPlatform.
          Or get involved through civil society orgs!

          hpod16@eupolicy.socialH zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ paelnever@masto.esP 3 Replies Last reply
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          • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

            @zer0unplanned
            Look, I understand wanting to be critical, but feel free to be constructive too!
            The EU is not a dictatorship, and there are many ways that you can get involved and voice your views.
            You could launch a #EuropeanCitizenInitiative, or support an existing one, check the #HaveYourSay portal for open public consultations on topics you care about, or start a discussion thread on the #CitizenEngagementPlatform.
            Or get involved through civil society orgs!

            hpod16@eupolicy.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
            hpod16@eupolicy.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
            hpod16@eupolicy.social
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            #5

            @zer0unplanned
            Citizen engagement platform: https://citizens.ec.europa.eu/index_en

            Here you can post comments and start threads that will actually be read by policy people! (Rather than screaming into the void that is social media, but keep doing that too)

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            • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

              @zer0unplanned
              Look, I understand wanting to be critical, but feel free to be constructive too!
              The EU is not a dictatorship, and there are many ways that you can get involved and voice your views.
              You could launch a #EuropeanCitizenInitiative, or support an existing one, check the #HaveYourSay portal for open public consultations on topics you care about, or start a discussion thread on the #CitizenEngagementPlatform.
              Or get involved through civil society orgs!

              zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
              zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
              zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
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              #6

              @hpod16 Sorry if I sounded over critical, but no one can stop this. We flow silently to another World my generation is not adapted with. For a young person all this is normal ( not judging as young ) but there are fundamental changes that undermine privacy, a flagship of the EU with it's GDPR that contraverse new laws they get in to control the crowd which bring a great risk to user as we know breaches happen and will keep happening that was my most concerning point. I embrace as you say the benefits and should be less critical as well if you wish so, thank you for the reminder : )

              in edit: I embrace eg. their open source usage for all official instances but why not the users or the people those 350 million that didn't voted on Ursula?

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              • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                @zer0unplanned
                Citizen engagement platform: https://citizens.ec.europa.eu/index_en

                Here you can post comments and start threads that will actually be read by policy people! (Rather than screaming into the void that is social media, but keep doing that too)

                zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
                zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
                zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
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                #7
                @hpod16 Thank you Hannah! : )
                But my network is lurky... lol
                I am virtually in Canada lately for a trip lol.
                I also adapt the timezone of OS to ip.
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                • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                  Some of you have been asking why the #EU digital policy account isn't on the #Fediverse..
                  Well, today they are! Go follow the official #DigitalEU account: @digitaleu for updates about #OpenSource, #Tech and #DigitalSovereignty, and much more!
                  Today is a good day for the open source community. Stay tuned for more announcements.

                  paelnever@masto.esP This user is from outside of this forum
                  paelnever@masto.esP This user is from outside of this forum
                  paelnever@masto.es
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @hpod16 @digitaleu
                  No, actually many people is asking themselves just the opposite, i mean, why you are here. Regardless of your public relations efforts you already know you are not going to fool anybody on this network and the amount of people here is comparatively small, so you are just wasting time and effort.

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                  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                    @zer0unplanned
                    Look, I understand wanting to be critical, but feel free to be constructive too!
                    The EU is not a dictatorship, and there are many ways that you can get involved and voice your views.
                    You could launch a #EuropeanCitizenInitiative, or support an existing one, check the #HaveYourSay portal for open public consultations on topics you care about, or start a discussion thread on the #CitizenEngagementPlatform.
                    Or get involved through civil society orgs!

                    paelnever@masto.esP This user is from outside of this forum
                    paelnever@masto.esP This user is from outside of this forum
                    paelnever@masto.es
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @hpod16 @zer0unplanned

                    Yes, the EU it IS actually a dictatorship, otherwise show me the ballot with the name of von der layen

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                    • paelnever@masto.esP paelnever@masto.es

                      @hpod16 @zer0unplanned

                      Yes, the EU it IS actually a dictatorship, otherwise show me the ballot with the name of von der layen

                      zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
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                      #10
                      @paelnever @hpod16 They want to appoint Kaja Kallas to broker a talk with Russia.. know that all but all Eastern EU states hate Russia.. we in the West have no problems with Russians.
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                      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                        Some of you have been asking why the #EU digital policy account isn't on the #Fediverse..
                        Well, today they are! Go follow the official #DigitalEU account: @digitaleu for updates about #OpenSource, #Tech and #DigitalSovereignty, and much more!
                        Today is a good day for the open source community. Stay tuned for more announcements.

                        tony_meredith@mastodon.me.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
                        tony_meredith@mastodon.me.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
                        tony_meredith@mastodon.me.uk
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                        #11

                        @hpod16
                        How soon do you think until they spot the typo in the profile?? @digitaleu
                        # Execurtive

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                        • tony_meredith@mastodon.me.ukT tony_meredith@mastodon.me.uk

                          @hpod16
                          How soon do you think until they spot the typo in the profile?? @digitaleu
                          # Execurtive

                          hpod16@eupolicy.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          hpod16@eupolicy.social
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                          #12

                          @Tony_Meredith @digitaleu
                          Thanks for flagging! they fixed it 🙂

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                          • paelnever@masto.esP paelnever@masto.es

                            @hpod16 @zer0unplanned

                            Yes, the EU it IS actually a dictatorship, otherwise show me the ballot with the name of von der layen

                            sab@hostux.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            The Commission president is proposed by the Council and elected by the European Parliament through majority vote.

                            So Von der Leyen was first nominated by democratically elected governments, and then elected by a directly elected parliament.

                            Electing leaders indirectly rather than directly is common in democracies. According to your logic Sweden is a dictatorship.
                            @paelnever @hpod16 @zer0unplanned

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                            • sab@hostux.socialS sab@hostux.social

                              The Commission president is proposed by the Council and elected by the European Parliament through majority vote.

                              So Von der Leyen was first nominated by democratically elected governments, and then elected by a directly elected parliament.

                              Electing leaders indirectly rather than directly is common in democracies. According to your logic Sweden is a dictatorship.
                              @paelnever @hpod16 @zer0unplanned

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                              #14

                              @sab
                              Thx for answering… I’m so tired of explaining that one. Working on a video about exactly this question at the moment tho!

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                              • sab@hostux.socialS sab@hostux.social

                                The Commission president is proposed by the Council and elected by the European Parliament through majority vote.

                                So Von der Leyen was first nominated by democratically elected governments, and then elected by a directly elected parliament.

                                Electing leaders indirectly rather than directly is common in democracies. According to your logic Sweden is a dictatorship.
                                @paelnever @hpod16 @zer0unplanned

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                                @sab @paelnever @hpod16 Is that Democracy in your way of view?
                                Was elected by this and by those but we chose locally.
                                Also, I will save you from the many infringements of International Law allows as they are the law makers, so we have to shut up and go on.
                                It's not like you are talking to a 13 year old or 23 or 33 or 43 year old guy no.... you talk to me.
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                                • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
                                  @sab @paelnever @hpod16 Is that Democracy in your way of view?
                                  Was elected by this and by those but we chose locally.
                                  Also, I will save you from the many infringements of International Law allows as they are the law makers, so we have to shut up and go on.
                                  It's not like you are talking to a 13 year old or 23 or 33 or 43 year old guy no.... you talk to me.
                                  sab@hostux.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  Laws being made by officials elected by people to represent them for set periods of time, and then being peacefully removed and replaced following elections if public opinion goes against them?

                                  You forget about European Parliament elections.

                                  There are plenty of democratic challenges in the EU, including that EP elections are considered second order so people use them to vote on national issues. It's not a perfect system, but it's not a dictatorship either.
                                  @zer0unplanned @paelnever @hpod16

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                                  • sab@hostux.socialS sab@hostux.social

                                    Laws being made by officials elected by people to represent them for set periods of time, and then being peacefully removed and replaced following elections if public opinion goes against them?

                                    You forget about European Parliament elections.

                                    There are plenty of democratic challenges in the EU, including that EP elections are considered second order so people use them to vote on national issues. It's not a perfect system, but it's not a dictatorship either.
                                    @zer0unplanned @paelnever @hpod16

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                                    #17
                                    @sab @paelnever @hpod16 It is rigged in my view, I respect your opinion but I retain mine.
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                                    • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
                                      @sab @paelnever @hpod16 It is rigged in my view, I respect your opinion but I retain mine.
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                                      #18

                                      It's rigged in its ways. Lobbying is powerful and mostly available to the rich. Right wingers own the media. National narratives tend to discourage honest engagement on the EU level, rendering EU democracy an empty shell. The list goes on.

                                      I just think it's worth going into more nuanced takes rather than resorting to hyperboles.

                                      Judging by the UK we wouldn't be much better off without it, so we better fix it instead. Which requires understanding and nuance.
                                      @zer0unplanned @paelnever @hpod16

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                                      • sab@hostux.socialS sab@hostux.social

                                        The Commission president is proposed by the Council and elected by the European Parliament through majority vote.

                                        So Von der Leyen was first nominated by democratically elected governments, and then elected by a directly elected parliament.

                                        Electing leaders indirectly rather than directly is common in democracies. According to your logic Sweden is a dictatorship.
                                        @paelnever @hpod16 @zer0unplanned

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                                        #19

                                        @sab @zer0unplanned
                                        Letting aside the fact that economic power already can handle what people vote just by controlling all the info the people receive. That what you call "indirect" election is a de-facto dictatorship. Economic power just have to bribe/blackmail a bunch of (mostly already corrupted) politicians to put the people they want in charge. It's fine if you are naive but please don't insult intelligence believing we all are.

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                                        • sab@hostux.socialS sab@hostux.social

                                          It's rigged in its ways. Lobbying is powerful and mostly available to the rich. Right wingers own the media. National narratives tend to discourage honest engagement on the EU level, rendering EU democracy an empty shell. The list goes on.

                                          I just think it's worth going into more nuanced takes rather than resorting to hyperboles.

                                          Judging by the UK we wouldn't be much better off without it, so we better fix it instead. Which requires understanding and nuance.
                                          @zer0unplanned @paelnever @hpod16

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                                          #20
                                          @sab @paelnever @hpod16 Apart from that while you mention Brittish involvement. Stop the damn Russophobia and instead make a market with them and all our problems will be solved financially they are not an enemy at all, USA is.
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