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  3. i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

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  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

    i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

    (not emacs or vim)

    quaff@thecanadian.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @b0rk I've been using tldr pages instead of man recently: https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr-python-client?tab=readme-ov-file

    Works pretty well and looks nice!

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    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

      i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

      (not emacs or vim)

      phred@weirder.earthP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @b0rk bat can give a colorized version of manpages which is, to me at least, a /little/ fancy. https://github.com/sharkdp/bat/issues/1433

      GNU info is supposed to supplement/replace man on some systems but I have general frustration whenever I end up in an info viewer. (It’s emacs~ish but somehow even less friendly)

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      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

        i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

        (not emacs or vim)

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        #12

        @b0rk related but maybe outside of the scope of your question: I have tried to fire woman (mode from emacs) once. But it wasn't as straightforward as thought and I didn't dig further. As I spent more and more time in emacs, I used woman directly and had less need to implement the "trick".

        The reason, because there is one except for using emacs itself 😉 is to have the ability to see and navigate the page with a menu and perform search, and filters with tools like Occur that I'm familiar with.

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        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

          i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

          (not emacs or vim)

          rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @b0rk Ugggggh if you find a good answer, please repost it with a bright red light. I think the biggest issue is that the roff format is too bankrupt, and we need better linking primitives, but… I might just be jaded.

          aerique@genart.socialA milo@types.plM fanf@mendeddrum.orgF 3 Replies Last reply
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          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

            i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

            (not emacs or vim)

            acut3@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @b0rk I use man with MANPAGER set to `less -ic --use-color -Dd+g -Duc`. Not super fancy, but has a few colors.

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            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

              i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

              (not emacs or vim)

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              simpleanecdote@mastodon.social
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              #15

              @b0rk there are too many to list. `yelp` (Gnome Help) comes to mind. `tldr` is a different approach. Then there are "smart" terminals, integrations, and a host of other things all trying to help us execute commands properly.

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              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                (not emacs or vim)

                notecharlie@social.bigcavemaps.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @b0rk I guess there's gnu's `info`... And of course each `man` implementation is different; I'm partial to openbsd's, but it is the antithesis of fancy.

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                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                  i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                  (not emacs or vim)

                  ladytel@masto.hackers.townL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @b0rk I use batman. It has colors and syntax highlighting

                  https://github.com/eth-p/bat-extras/blob/master/doc/batman.md

                  Edit: should have read the replies to not be caller number 5 linking to the same thing

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                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                    @krans i'm happy for emacs users but I am never going to use emacs so no 🙂

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                    #18

                    @b0rk @krans Girl!

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                    • rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR rjbs@social.semiotic.systems

                      @b0rk Ugggggh if you find a good answer, please repost it with a bright red light. I think the biggest issue is that the roff format is too bankrupt, and we need better linking primitives, but… I might just be jaded.

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                      #19

                      @rjbs @b0rk So we first need to convert roff to something useful?

                      (As someone who wrote an RTF to XML converter once in XSLT and Java I am not volunteering.)

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                      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                        i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                        (not emacs or vim)

                        gduchaussois@mastodon.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @b0rk batman from bat ?

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                        • aerique@genart.socialA aerique@genart.social

                          @rjbs @b0rk So we first need to convert roff to something useful?

                          (As someone who wrote an RTF to XML converter once in XSLT and Java I am not volunteering.)

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                          #21

                          @aerique @b0rk A tool that consumes roff will (I believe) never be good. (We could change roff but no.) We want a tool that reads something better and can fall back to roff. We can't convert roff-to-gooddoc.

                          Texinfo was meant to be that, but (I would say) failed. A subset of HTML could replace it. (And Texinfo can compile to HTML.) You'd then want a tool that know how to find the html for a given command/name.

                          It's "easy" except for the xkcd 927 problem. Sorry, this is not constructive.

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                            #22

                            @doekman it's so nice! my dream is that somehow someone has made something like that for the terminal

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                            • rjbs@social.semiotic.systemsR rjbs@social.semiotic.systems

                              @aerique @b0rk A tool that consumes roff will (I believe) never be good. (We could change roff but no.) We want a tool that reads something better and can fall back to roff. We can't convert roff-to-gooddoc.

                              Texinfo was meant to be that, but (I would say) failed. A subset of HTML could replace it. (And Texinfo can compile to HTML.) You'd then want a tool that know how to find the html for a given command/name.

                              It's "easy" except for the xkcd 927 problem. Sorry, this is not constructive.

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                              #23

                              @rjbs @b0rk Oh it is constructive. I'd never looked at roff.

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                              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                                (not emacs or vim)

                                b0rk@social.jvns.caB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #24

                                qman looks interesting but on my machine it takes several seconds to start https://github.com/plp13/qman

                                arrakeen_urbanite@universeodon.comA xmanmonk@mastodon.sdf.orgX 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                  i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                                  (not emacs or vim)

                                  flohw@pouet.chapril.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #25

                                  @b0rk I use [bat](https://github.com/sharkdp/bat) with this env var `export MANPAGER="sh -c 'col -bx | bat --language man --plain'"`
                                  This look like this.

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                                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                    qman looks interesting but on my machine it takes several seconds to start https://github.com/plp13/qman

                                    arrakeen_urbanite@universeodon.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #26

                                    @b0rk Appears to be coded in C. Perhaps it is a good target for re-implementation in Rust or Go?

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                                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                      qman looks interesting but on my machine it takes several seconds to start https://github.com/plp13/qman

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                                      #27

                                      @b0rk Looks like a nice tui version of xman, which is one of my favorite guis.

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                                      • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                        @b0rk there's GNU `info` but I think you were probably asking about *good* ones 😖

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                                        #28

                                        @SnoopJ @b0rk also pinfo ( https://github.com/baszoetekouw/pinfo ), which is at least different.

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                                        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                          i feel like i've probably asked this before but has anyone written a fancy command line man page viewer to replace `man`?

                                          (not emacs or vim)

                                          ingenieur@mas.toI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #29

                                          @b0rk https://github.com/filiparag/wikiman
                                          or I also use Television for fuzzy finding and then opening the pages in bat with man.

                                          https://alexpasmantier.github.io/television/

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