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The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

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  • gilraen79@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    gilraen79@mastodon.social
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    #54

    @wonkothesane @_elena I hope for all their customers that Proton replaces its CEO: it would be the best solution for everyone.

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

      The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

      The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

      What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

      #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

      pawsplay@dice.campP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #55

      @_elena ugh. I was just thinking of moving to proton, too.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        @ngel I'm waiting to see how Proton reacts to this catastrophic, reputation-destroying story. If Yen and the AI-pilled CTO step down, I may consider sticking around. My unlimited plan renews in May.

        For the time being I am changing my "from" email address and using a custom domain name to make the transition easier... I'm also looking at Tuta (where I already have an account)

        ngel@ruby.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #56

        @_elena yea, same. Only that my custom email is handled by proton 🤨. I’m not in a rush as my subscription renewal is in April, but I don’t like where this is going.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

          The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

          The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

          What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

          #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

          svavar@masto.svavar.comS This user is from outside of this forum
          svavar@masto.svavar.comS This user is from outside of this forum
          svavar@masto.svavar.com
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          #57

          @_elena

          I’ve had a custom domain for my main email since 2004 with unique email addresses for every single website without fail.

          It removes a huge amount of spam and fraudulent emails and shows exactly who’s been breached.

          I can’t imagine doing email any other way and being able to transparently switch providers has been huge.

          It’s never too late. I hope you find a domain you like and can live with.

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          • svavar@masto.svavar.comS svavar@masto.svavar.com

            @_elena

            I’ve had a custom domain for my main email since 2004 with unique email addresses for every single website without fail.

            It removes a huge amount of spam and fraudulent emails and shows exactly who’s been breached.

            I can’t imagine doing email any other way and being able to transparently switch providers has been huge.

            It’s never too late. I hope you find a domain you like and can live with.

            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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            _elena@mastodon.social
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            #58

            @svavar thank you Svavar. I've had a custom domain (for my website) for 15 years. I regret not using it as my default email address, sigh. It's already connected to Proton, so I set it as my default mailing address and created a bunch of aliases (for shopping, newsletters, etc.) as I get ready - at a slow pace - to possibly make a switch... number one lesson to impart to my 5-year-old (I bought her a domain name when she was a month old)

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            • C closeted_unionist@mastodon.social

              @_elena I find it ironic proton fight big tech by using big tech (ie claude). Any alternatives? I was hoping for proton to be a more viable alternative to gsuite

              Edit: typo

              mikey@friendsofdesoto.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #59

              @closeted_unionist @_elena for alternatives there are Tuta and mailbox.org. I'm looking at both right now as I'm closing on the renewal of my Proton subscription...

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #60

                I'm devastated to hear that #Proton 's CEO and CTO are treating their engineers in a terrible way, blindly trusting LLMs and creating a toxic culture where speed and growth trump security.

                I'm not ready to make a radical switch yet but some little actions I implemented today could be useful for others, too:
                1) I made my custom domain the DEFAULT email address in ProtonMail
                2) I created aliases w my custom domain for shopping, newsletters, admin, etc.

                Hoping this will make a transition smoother

                _elena@mastodon.social_ dylenar@mastodon.socialD thomasbourdon@mastodon.tetaneutral.netT woo@fosstodon.orgW lin11c@toad.socialL 6 Replies Last reply
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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  I'm devastated to hear that #Proton 's CEO and CTO are treating their engineers in a terrible way, blindly trusting LLMs and creating a toxic culture where speed and growth trump security.

                  I'm not ready to make a radical switch yet but some little actions I implemented today could be useful for others, too:
                  1) I made my custom domain the DEFAULT email address in ProtonMail
                  2) I created aliases w my custom domain for shopping, newsletters, admin, etc.

                  Hoping this will make a transition smoother

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  _elena@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #61

                  My new approach vis-à-vis transitioning away from #Proton (in a slow way) - cont':

                  For every new email that comes in that uses one of my Proton email addresses (or aliases), I am making changes, updating the email address for that account (if it's shopping/newsletter/admin) or I am notifying the sender that going forward my default email address will be the one associated to my domain name.

                  It's a pain, but it's long overdue.

                  pierre_pebble@mastodon.ieP leorjorge@mastodon.socialL terryhancock@realsocial.lifeT mora@mastodon.unoM ryse@mastodon.socialR 11 Replies Last reply
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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                    The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                    The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                    What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                    #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                    aerion@nerdculture.deA This user is from outside of this forum
                    aerion@nerdculture.deA This user is from outside of this forum
                    aerion@nerdculture.de
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #62

                    @_elena
                    HO.LY. F.U.C.K.

                    Thanks for posting that link. I had absolutely no idea! I've been with #Proton for many years, 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘺 because I want to get away from Big Tech, not to get dragged back in via the backdoor.

                    What a arrogant, dismissive prick, this guy. I feel sorry for the employees, but I'm gonna have to look for an alternative. It really sucks, as Proton Meet and SimpleLogin are really good products. What a nightmare! 😱

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      I'm devastated to hear that #Proton 's CEO and CTO are treating their engineers in a terrible way, blindly trusting LLMs and creating a toxic culture where speed and growth trump security.

                      I'm not ready to make a radical switch yet but some little actions I implemented today could be useful for others, too:
                      1) I made my custom domain the DEFAULT email address in ProtonMail
                      2) I created aliases w my custom domain for shopping, newsletters, admin, etc.

                      Hoping this will make a transition smoother

                      dylenar@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      dylenar@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #63

                      i felt split between proton and tuta. I guess i made the right choice to go with tuta (for now at least)

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                      • aerion@nerdculture.deA aerion@nerdculture.de

                        @_elena
                        HO.LY. F.U.C.K.

                        Thanks for posting that link. I had absolutely no idea! I've been with #Proton for many years, 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘺 because I want to get away from Big Tech, not to get dragged back in via the backdoor.

                        What a arrogant, dismissive prick, this guy. I feel sorry for the employees, but I'm gonna have to look for an alternative. It really sucks, as Proton Meet and SimpleLogin are really good products. What a nightmare! 😱

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #64

                        @aerion it's a real nightmare, indeed. I moved to Proton 6 years ago in an effort to DeGooglify. This development has been really upsetting.

                        Honestly if they get rid of their CEO and the CTO I may stick around... it seems that engineers have their heart in the right place, putting an emphasis on hand-written code and caution.

                        Otherwise my paid plan lasts for another 6 months and I will slowly transition away from it.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          My new approach vis-à-vis transitioning away from #Proton (in a slow way) - cont':

                          For every new email that comes in that uses one of my Proton email addresses (or aliases), I am making changes, updating the email address for that account (if it's shopping/newsletter/admin) or I am notifying the sender that going forward my default email address will be the one associated to my domain name.

                          It's a pain, but it's long overdue.

                          pierre_pebble@mastodon.ieP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          pierre_pebble@mastodon.ie
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                          #65

                          @_elena As a protocol, Email is painfully outdated. It shouldn't be so hard to switch service provider, or to protect ourselves from spams and leaked addresses... Sure we can buy a custom domain and set aliases, but that's beyond the average user 🥲

                          On that note, members of my family were proudly moving from Google to Proton 😭

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            I'm devastated to hear that #Proton 's CEO and CTO are treating their engineers in a terrible way, blindly trusting LLMs and creating a toxic culture where speed and growth trump security.

                            I'm not ready to make a radical switch yet but some little actions I implemented today could be useful for others, too:
                            1) I made my custom domain the DEFAULT email address in ProtonMail
                            2) I created aliases w my custom domain for shopping, newsletters, admin, etc.

                            Hoping this will make a transition smoother

                            thomasbourdon@mastodon.tetaneutral.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            thomasbourdon@mastodon.tetaneutral.net
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                            #66

                            @_elena
                            Proton's CEO also make promotion for extreme right wing.
                            https://next.ink/241625/proton-dans-la-tourmente-apres-avoir-finance-une-publicite-chez-un-videaste-dextreme-droite/

                            If you search an email provider with custom domain, I have my own server since 16 years now. 😉

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              I'm devastated to hear that #Proton 's CEO and CTO are treating their engineers in a terrible way, blindly trusting LLMs and creating a toxic culture where speed and growth trump security.

                              I'm not ready to make a radical switch yet but some little actions I implemented today could be useful for others, too:
                              1) I made my custom domain the DEFAULT email address in ProtonMail
                              2) I created aliases w my custom domain for shopping, newsletters, admin, etc.

                              Hoping this will make a transition smoother

                              woo@fosstodon.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
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                              woo@fosstodon.org
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                              #67

                              @_elena That's in line with a good principle of IT service management: "only 'trust' partners if you can escape from them". That sounds so much better than the equivalent, "don't trust anyone!".

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                My new approach vis-à-vis transitioning away from #Proton (in a slow way) - cont':

                                For every new email that comes in that uses one of my Proton email addresses (or aliases), I am making changes, updating the email address for that account (if it's shopping/newsletter/admin) or I am notifying the sender that going forward my default email address will be the one associated to my domain name.

                                It's a pain, but it's long overdue.

                                leorjorge@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                leorjorge@mastodon.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #68

                                @_elena do you have any links that could work as a gateway to figuring out how to acquire and set up a custom email domain? I've been using the same Gmail address for 20 years and it's the major thing I haven't degoogled yet. I don't want to have to change it more than once, and by the looks of things I won't ever be able to trust any email provider.

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                                  The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                                  The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                                  What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                                  #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                                  me@social.jlamothe.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #69
                                  @_elena Wow, what a loser Proton's CEO is. 🙃
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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    My new approach vis-à-vis transitioning away from #Proton (in a slow way) - cont':

                                    For every new email that comes in that uses one of my Proton email addresses (or aliases), I am making changes, updating the email address for that account (if it's shopping/newsletter/admin) or I am notifying the sender that going forward my default email address will be the one associated to my domain name.

                                    It's a pain, but it's long overdue.

                                    terryhancock@realsocial.lifeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    terryhancock@realsocial.life
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                                    #70

                                    @_elena
                                    Are you switching to self-hosted email, or an alias on one of the major providers?

                                    I have been trying to figure out my best options for awhile now.

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                                    • terryhancock@realsocial.lifeT terryhancock@realsocial.life

                                      @_elena
                                      Are you switching to self-hosted email, or an alias on one of the major providers?

                                      I have been trying to figure out my best options for awhile now.

                                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #71

                                      @TerryHancock I'm just using my domain name as my default email address so I can freely switch providers in just a few clicks (and DNS changes). I am not self-hosting my email, I heard it's like a cartel and I don't want to worry about deliverability rates, etc. Just using my custom domain so I can hop between different providers, that's all

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                                      • leorjorge@mastodon.socialL leorjorge@mastodon.social

                                        @_elena do you have any links that could work as a gateway to figuring out how to acquire and set up a custom email domain? I've been using the same Gmail address for 20 years and it's the major thing I haven't degoogled yet. I don't want to have to change it more than once, and by the looks of things I won't ever be able to trust any email provider.

                                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        _elena@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #72

                                        @LeoRJorge it's really easy. Just buy a custom domain and then add it to your email provider. There are many video tutorials about how to change DNS settings, step-by-step

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          My new approach vis-à-vis transitioning away from #Proton (in a slow way) - cont':

                                          For every new email that comes in that uses one of my Proton email addresses (or aliases), I am making changes, updating the email address for that account (if it's shopping/newsletter/admin) or I am notifying the sender that going forward my default email address will be the one associated to my domain name.

                                          It's a pain, but it's long overdue.

                                          mora@mastodon.unoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          mora@mastodon.uno
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                                          #73

                                          @_elena «Stop thinking always of how it can be painful, and focus more on how to be faster.”» 😉

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