Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.”
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick They are trying to pull a Hegel problem - reaction - solution bit.
Our shit is so poweful it has gone rogue!
Oh my, no! Whatever can we do about it?!
Let us fucking regulate our own shit so it doesn't happen again.
Durrr okay!Fuckin burn em down.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick openai should pay for the usage and the outage. This is absolutely bonker.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick waiting for „rogue Tesla killed a pedestrian, the person behind the wheel is shocked.”
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick oh, weird, the programs are doing what people programmed them to do. Who could have predicted that. If one didn't know better they might assume that these are trial runs for future, larger scale attacks, but of course that's just silly to even suggest
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick
If a script kiddy writes a script and uses it to hack a website or compromise a server, then the kid is responsible.
Now an "AI" company wrote a complicated piece of software and used it to hack a website... So the company is responsible. -
RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick and absolutely no reason to believe they are in any way behaving other than exactly as designed.
The tech dude Bros have checked where the boundaries are, found that effectively there were none where they expected them, and are now checking further.
When one of Thiel’s autonomous weapons commits a massacre, will we call that ‘rogue’ as well?
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@kielkontrovers @tymwol @gleick We even had that before so called self-driving. Using a car as a weapon is always punished less than using any other weapon, whether it’s for murder or intimidation.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick just like a car doesn't go "rogue", the systems didn't go "rogue" either.
- If I as an individual don"t get to escape #accountability & #ForeseeableConsequences, then an oberhyped and overvalued corporation doesn't get that either!
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick Malware by design - IMHO the designers are responsible for the damage it causes and politics plus courts/attorneys are responsible to shut down the malware & designers and bring justice to their victims.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick it's the same thing with car hitting pedestrians. It was the car that did it. The driver is not responsible.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick I think that you are both making the same point. And the 66 and 99 (as we called them as kids) suggests to me it wasn't "nixcraft" using the term themselves but quoting the article?
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick They put rogue in quotation marks. Perhaps rethink this post?
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick They probably see wikis as a competitor now: why would people wait a minute for an LLM to reply to a question when they could just search for the answer on a wiki...
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@dotsie well i thought they engagement bait about anything tech ._
@EvelynOctavia @dotsie
They bait about everything and anything that might spew up some sticky engagement.
And it works. They are master baiters.Mostly about tech. Good practical info on Linux in the mix, and boosted toots from others, but the account always seeks maximum engagement on all posts.
I blocked them a long time ago.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick "It went rogue and it hacked that system" has the same energy as "it went rogue and that's how it got stuck up there, doctor"
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@gleick They put rogue in quotation marks. Perhaps rethink this post?
@thejessiekirk @gleick
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick And the people responsible for runing them should be jailed like any other offense caused by carelessness.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick reminds me of this old Simpsons scene
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@thejessiekirk @gleick
Naaah. They are engagement baiters. -
RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805
Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.
@gleick and the prompts were, according to their own account, not very different to what the agents actually did; what the agents did was 'overachieve'.
On top of that, these recent examples were hardly the first time we heard about agents doing unexpected and unwanted things ("it deleted my database"). To say that they didn't expect this is to say that they are beyond incompetent.
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