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  • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Czech your passwords.

    qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #28

    @jupiter Which website is this? That's weird! zxcvbn measures both passwords as weak and old-style (aka bad) password strength meters overestimate mixing character classes (so repeating a single character wouldn't work).

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    • falken@social.falkensweb.comF falken@social.falkensweb.com

      @kajer @MegaMichelle @jupiter @CrackMeIfYouCan though careful not to lock yourself out because a keyboard bug stops you entering the characters... https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/04/12/apple-update-turns-czech-mate-for-locked-out-iphone-user/5219671

      nobrainnopain@social.tchncs.deN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #29

      @falken @kajer @MegaMichelle @jupiter @CrackMeIfYouCan about 15 years ago, I set up an Apple TimeCapsule for my wife. Guess what happened: The password chosen to connect didn’t work - and hours later I found out why: There was an umlaut, ä, in her password. Replaced the umlaut by ae - and everything was fine…

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @jupiter

        Enter password

        RødgrødMedFløde

        Enter password

        RødgrødMedFløde

        Enter password

        That is my password!

        There's something off about how you type the password. Access denied

        evdelen@mstdn.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #30

        @benroyce @jupiter

        https://kuber.studio/cookie/

        Follow this one past the typing test... Not that far off from the truth.

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        • evdelen@mstdn.caE evdelen@mstdn.ca

          @benroyce @jupiter

          https://kuber.studio/cookie/

          Follow this one past the typing test... Not that far off from the truth.

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          #31

          @evdelen @jupiter

          "What you have installed

          Your system has 22 text-to-speech voices installed, the exact set is a strong fingerprint.how?

          You have Japanese language pack support installed.how?

          You have Chinese language pack support installed.how?

          You have South Asian script language pack support installed.how?

          You have programmer fonts installed, you write code.how?"

          fuck

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          • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

            Czech your passwords.

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            #32

            I am happy to announce that I just tested those passwords in the password strength evaluation that I wrote for Intempus. And both of them fail due to repetitions. Using ř scores slightly higher, but only because there is also r in my username.

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            • falken@social.falkensweb.comF falken@social.falkensweb.com

              @kajer @MegaMichelle @jupiter @CrackMeIfYouCan though careful not to lock yourself out because a keyboard bug stops you entering the characters... https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/04/12/apple-update-turns-czech-mate-for-locked-out-iphone-user/5219671

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              #33

              @falken In some Android keyboards it's ridiculously hard to type a $ character. Don't ask me how I noticed.

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              • mkyral@mamutovo.czM mkyral@mamutovo.cz

                @TheKeystoneCollective @jupiter

                StrčPrstSkrz1Krk is more safe 😄

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                #34

                Nah, yours is three characters shorter. So I rate the previous one as a bit more secure. But both are rated pretty high by my calculations.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @jupiter

                  Enter password

                  RødgrødMedFløde

                  Enter password

                  RødgrødMedFløde

                  Enter password

                  That is my password!

                  There's something off about how you type the password. Access denied

                  dryak@mstdn.scienceD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #35

                  @benroyce @jupiter

                  In all seriousness this is a genuine problem (due to UTF-8 normalization-- composition vs decomposition) if you switch between MacOS (always use ASCII latin letter codepoint + diacritic codepoint, no matter what; i.e. "o" + "/", "r" + carron, etc.) and anything else (always prefere one single codepoint if the accented letter exists, e.g., in the Latin-1 block: "ø", Latin Extended-A block: "ř")
                  ...

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                  • dryak@mstdn.scienceD dryak@mstdn.science

                    @benroyce @jupiter

                    In all seriousness this is a genuine problem (due to UTF-8 normalization-- composition vs decomposition) if you switch between MacOS (always use ASCII latin letter codepoint + diacritic codepoint, no matter what; i.e. "o" + "/", "r" + carron, etc.) and anything else (always prefere one single codepoint if the accented letter exists, e.g., in the Latin-1 block: "ø", Latin Extended-A block: "ř")
                    ...

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                    #36

                    @benroyce @jupiter ...

                    See an old post of mine on Unix stackexchange:
                    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/494883/utf8-character-makes-file-inaccessible/494909#494909

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                    • dryak@mstdn.scienceD dryak@mstdn.science

                      @benroyce @jupiter ...

                      See an old post of mine on Unix stackexchange:
                      https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/494883/utf8-character-makes-file-inaccessible/494909#494909

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                      #37

                      @dryak @jupiter

                      well way to ruin my stupid joke!

                      just kidding

                      it is a serious issue

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                      • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        Czech your passwords.

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                        #38

                        @jupiter

                        Ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja XD

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                        • falken@social.falkensweb.comF falken@social.falkensweb.com

                          @kajer @MegaMichelle @jupiter @CrackMeIfYouCan though careful not to lock yourself out because a keyboard bug stops you entering the characters... https://www.theregister.com/on-prem/2026/04/12/apple-update-turns-czech-mate-for-locked-out-iphone-user/5219671

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                          #39

                          I totally agree with that. There was a time where I used machines with both Danish and American keyboard layouts on a daily basis. So I learned to pick passwords consisting of only characters that were located in the same place on both keyboards.

                          And that was a time when only ASCII was supported, so I had to keep that in mind as well.

                          The best way to make passwords stronger is to make them longer rather than using more different characters.

                          I am so annoyed by sites that get this wrong. First they reject my 32 character password because it’s too long. So I try truncating my password to 12, 16, or 20 characters (whatever they permit), and then they reject it because I only have alphanumeric characters. Seriously, the password I started with was stronger than such a short password could ever be. So the weakness of the password I am trying is entirely caused by their low limit on password length and not by the set of characters I had chosen to use.

                          A user should be allowed to use a password consisting of only two distinct characters as long as it’s long enough and doesn’t have any patterns.

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                          • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            Czech your passwords.

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                            #40

                            @jupiter Clearly you rrrrrrr inverting the dunce cap...

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                            • cy@chaos.socialC cy@chaos.social

                              @jupiter Germans use Passwörd!

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                              #41

                              Surprisingly that password is not found in https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords, are you sure there are actually Germans using that?

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                              • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Czech your passwords.

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                                #42

                                @jupiter the impossible-to-pronounce-for-a-non-Czech password

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                                • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                                  Surprisingly that password is not found in https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords, are you sure there are actually Germans using that?

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                                  #43

                                  @kasperd @jupiter i like my passwords like my potatoes! heavily salted

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                                  • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    Czech your passwords.

                                    beyoublahaj@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #44

                                    @jupiter Going for extra Polish is also a valid strategy.

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                                    • evdelen@mstdn.caE evdelen@mstdn.ca

                                      @benroyce @jupiter

                                      https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                                      Follow this one past the typing test... Not that far off from the truth.

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                                      #45

                                      @evdelen @benroyce @jupiter
                                      I’ve done this test before, using the same device, and this programme did NOT recognise me – or rather, my device.
                                      All the details about my device were wrong again: two matches – namely ‘Windows’ (which almost every device has; I would at least have expected the version to be specified) and ‘x86’ (which is also standard, but the RAM was listed incorrectly too).
                                      So it seems my settings are correct.

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                                      • greynerd65@mastodon.socialG greynerd65@mastodon.social

                                        @evdelen @benroyce @jupiter
                                        I’ve done this test before, using the same device, and this programme did NOT recognise me – or rather, my device.
                                        All the details about my device were wrong again: two matches – namely ‘Windows’ (which almost every device has; I would at least have expected the version to be specified) and ‘x86’ (which is also standard, but the RAM was listed incorrectly too).
                                        So it seems my settings are correct.

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                                        #46

                                        @greynerd65 @evdelen @jupiter

                                        "directorate of analysis, make a note on this file: greynerd65 fell for the social hack of leaking opsec details by luring them into a false sense of informality"

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @jupiter

                                          Enter password

                                          RødgrødMedFløde

                                          Enter password

                                          RødgrødMedFløde

                                          Enter password

                                          That is my password!

                                          There's something off about how you type the password. Access denied

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                                          #47

                                          Interestingly the lower case version of that password is found in exactly one leak known to https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords

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