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  • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Czech your passwords.

    w00p@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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    #42

    @jupiter the impossible-to-pronounce-for-a-non-Czech password

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    • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

      Surprisingly that password is not found in https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords, are you sure there are actually Germans using that?

      cy@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #43

      @kasperd @jupiter i like my passwords like my potatoes! heavily salted

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      • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Czech your passwords.

        beyoublahaj@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #44

        @jupiter Going for extra Polish is also a valid strategy.

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        • evdelen@mstdn.caE evdelen@mstdn.ca

          @benroyce @jupiter

          https://kuber.studio/cookie/

          Follow this one past the typing test... Not that far off from the truth.

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          #45

          @evdelen @benroyce @jupiter
          I’ve done this test before, using the same device, and this programme did NOT recognise me – or rather, my device.
          All the details about my device were wrong again: two matches – namely ‘Windows’ (which almost every device has; I would at least have expected the version to be specified) and ‘x86’ (which is also standard, but the RAM was listed incorrectly too).
          So it seems my settings are correct.

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          • greynerd65@mastodon.socialG greynerd65@mastodon.social

            @evdelen @benroyce @jupiter
            I’ve done this test before, using the same device, and this programme did NOT recognise me – or rather, my device.
            All the details about my device were wrong again: two matches – namely ‘Windows’ (which almost every device has; I would at least have expected the version to be specified) and ‘x86’ (which is also standard, but the RAM was listed incorrectly too).
            So it seems my settings are correct.

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            #46

            @greynerd65 @evdelen @jupiter

            "directorate of analysis, make a note on this file: greynerd65 fell for the social hack of leaking opsec details by luring them into a false sense of informality"

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @jupiter

              Enter password

              RødgrødMedFløde

              Enter password

              RødgrødMedFløde

              Enter password

              That is my password!

              There's something off about how you type the password. Access denied

              kasperd@westergaard.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #47

              Interestingly the lower case version of that password is found in exactly one leak known to https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords

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              • w00p@infosec.exchangeW w00p@infosec.exchange

                @jupiter the impossible-to-pronounce-for-a-non-Czech password

                kasperd@westergaard.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #48

                The pronunciation point got me wondering whether an American would be able to pronounce this password: zzzccccczczczcczczcc

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                • dryak@mstdn.scienceD dryak@mstdn.science

                  @benroyce @jupiter

                  In all seriousness this is a genuine problem (due to UTF-8 normalization-- composition vs decomposition) if you switch between MacOS (always use ASCII latin letter codepoint + diacritic codepoint, no matter what; i.e. "o" + "/", "r" + carron, etc.) and anything else (always prefere one single codepoint if the accented letter exists, e.g., in the Latin-1 block: "ø", Latin Extended-A block: "ř")
                  ...

                  jan@social.janantos.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #49

                  @dryak @benroyce @jupiter few years ago my ETL to analytics cube start suddenly failing because of company enabled registration via mobile app and one user decided to have username as “Princess👑👑👑” yeah I know I wasn’t sanitizing input enough, but tbh no one expected this when the ETL was designed.

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                  • cy@chaos.socialC cy@chaos.social

                    @kasperd @jupiter i like my passwords like my potatoes! heavily salted

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                    #50

                    For sure, leaving out the salt is highly irresponsible.

                    But I don’t trust sites to be salting, so I pick passwords that are strong enough that even if a site stored it using a single iteration of MD5 with no salting it would not be broken.

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                    • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                      Interestingly the lower case version of that password is found in exactly one leak known to https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords

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                      #51

                      @kasperd @jupiter

                      that's why my password is

                      a æ u å æ ø i æ å

                      🤭

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @greynerd65 @evdelen @jupiter

                        "directorate of analysis, make a note on this file: greynerd65 fell for the social hack of leaking opsec details by luring them into a false sense of informality"

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                        #52

                        @benroyce @evdelen @jupiter
                        I’m really very curious to find out what details regarding operational security have been disclosed 😂

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                        • evdelen@mstdn.caE evdelen@mstdn.ca

                          @benroyce @jupiter

                          https://kuber.studio/cookie/

                          Follow this one past the typing test... Not that far off from the truth.

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                          #53

                          @evdelen @benroyce @jupiter The slow typing is unacceptable, and it stops if I switch tabs. Nope.

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                          • M mike805@noc.social

                            @evdelen @benroyce @jupiter The slow typing is unacceptable, and it stops if I switch tabs. Nope.

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                            #54

                            @mike805 @benroyce @jupiter

                            Click "skip intro" on the top right.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @kasperd @jupiter

                              that's why my password is

                              a æ u å æ ø i æ å

                              🤭

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                              #55

                              I have the CD with the song that line came from.

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                              • jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jupiter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Czech your passwords.

                                guillotine_jones@beige.partyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #56

                                @jupiter
                                Have your cat type your passwords.

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                                • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                                  The pronunciation point got me wondering whether an American would be able to pronounce this password: zzzccccczczczcczczcc

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                                  #57

                                  @kasperd @w00p @jupiter
                                  It's pronounced just like it's spelled, Kasperd.

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                                  • greynerd65@mastodon.socialG greynerd65@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce @evdelen @jupiter
                                    I’m really very curious to find out what details regarding operational security have been disclosed 😂

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                                    #58

                                    @greynerd65 @evdelen @jupiter

                                    "THEY DID IT AGAIN! WRITE THIS DOWN!"

                                    i'm just being a jerk

                                    i'm good at it

                                    🤭

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                                    • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                                      I have the CD with the song that line came from.

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                                      #59

                                      Sorry I misremembered. The actual line in that song is:
                                      A æ u i æ å, u i å æ ø

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                                      • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                                        The pronunciation point got me wondering whether an American would be able to pronounce this password: zzzccccczczczcczczcc

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                                        #60

                                        @kasperd @w00p @jupiter chchchchch?

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                                        • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                                          I totally agree with that. There was a time where I used machines with both Danish and American keyboard layouts on a daily basis. So I learned to pick passwords consisting of only characters that were located in the same place on both keyboards.

                                          And that was a time when only ASCII was supported, so I had to keep that in mind as well.

                                          The best way to make passwords stronger is to make them longer rather than using more different characters.

                                          I am so annoyed by sites that get this wrong. First they reject my 32 character password because it’s too long. So I try truncating my password to 12, 16, or 20 characters (whatever they permit), and then they reject it because I only have alphanumeric characters. Seriously, the password I started with was stronger than such a short password could ever be. So the weakness of the password I am trying is entirely caused by their low limit on password length and not by the set of characters I had chosen to use.

                                          A user should be allowed to use a password consisting of only two distinct characters as long as it’s long enough and doesn’t have any patterns.

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                                          #61

                                          @kasperd @MegaMichelle @CrackMeIfYouCan @kajer @jupiter at one point Linux boot-time FS decrypt wouldn't use the O/S locale, but en-US, so here in en-GB things like @ in pass phrases were... Interesting...

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