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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

    So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

    It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

    Neat!

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    #13

    @eniko @Njord

    I remember the old television remote controls had several ultrasonic whistles that pushing a button would be picked up in the television's vacuum tube amplifier and activate solenoids to mechanically change channels or rotate the volume knob...

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    • rotopenguin@mastodon.socialR rotopenguin@mastodon.social

      @MichaelPorter the igniter puts out a lot of RF noise, dunnit?

      Back in the good old days you could blast out enough RF to basically picoweld iron filings at a distance, and nobody would stop you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer

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      #14

      @rotopenguin I've *never* heard of these! Thanks 😊
      Interesting to see the wide variety of coherers.

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      • dianea@lgbtqia.spaceD dianea@lgbtqia.space

        @eniko @Njord

        I remember the old television remote controls had several ultrasonic whistles that pushing a button would be picked up in the television's vacuum tube amplifier and activate solenoids to mechanically change channels or rotate the volume knob...

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        #15

        @dianea @Njord neat!

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          #16

          @LunaDragofelis @eniko @Njord yes, but not the kind of power you need for prosthetics, more like picoampere. There's a lot of extremely fundamental research that would still be needed for the kind of application you're thinking of ^^'

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

            So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

            It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

            Neat!

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            #17

            @eniko @Njord Early TV remote controls (1960s) were similar. Each button triggered a spring to hit an ultrasonic tuning fork which the TV could identify.

            My childhood experiments indicated a range of 10 - 20 feet (~ 3 - 6 meters).

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

              So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

              It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

              Neat!

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              #18

              @eniko @Njord I have a doorbell like that! The issue is that since it requires some effort in pushing, some people think it's just touch activated and don't really ring it 🙂

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                Neat!

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                #19

                @eniko @Njord they should make those also for foot activation, would be more accessible too if used as a doorbell

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                  So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                  It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                  Neat!

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                  #20

                  @eniko @Njord ARM has ultra low-power CPUs that can run off energy harvesting, it’s honestly amazing how little power you need for modern devices and it kinda feels like magic…

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                    So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                    It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                    Neat!

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                    #21

                    @eniko @Njord My previous workplace had a battery-free wireless doorbell - this must be how that worked too. Not as cool as a big friendly button, though!

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                      So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                      It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                      Neat!

                      oliver_schafeld@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #22

                      I got light switches like that in my house for nearly ten years. Sometimes you have to push them several times if you haven't used them in a while, probably to get enough piezo charge for a signal.

                      https://kinetic-switch.de/en

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                        So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                        It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                        Neat!

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                        #23

                        @eniko @Njord speaking on behalf of the fediverse: yes, we like this

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                        • sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @eniko @Njord our front door bell is like that, it’s nice not having to wonder about missing a delivery because the battery died, it can’t now. Love tech that makes life simpler not more complicated

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                          #24

                          @sinbad @eniko @Njord
                          I got fed up with batteries in door bell button and the "bell" and unreliability (433 MHz).
                          Eventually I found a real wired pushbutton and BingBong inside box, though that used batteries. So I added a transformer to 8V AC at the fuse box, because the bing-bong real solenoid doesn't care about AC or DC. The bulb in the door bell button is across the switch, so in series & glows orange, thus long life.

                          1950s technology, but 100% reliable.

                          No spying to Amazon.

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                            So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                            It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                            Neat!

                            leonardof@bertha.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #25

                            @eniko @Njord ELG PowerCube/PowerRemote?

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                            • leonardof@bertha.socialL leonardof@bertha.social

                              @eniko @Njord ELG PowerCube/PowerRemote?

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                              #26

                              @leonardof I'm not sure but @Njord might be able to tell you

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                @leonardof I'm not sure but @Njord might be able to tell you

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                                #27

                                @eniko @Njord BTW the Brazilian product page says there's a fuse which can trip if current exceeds 10 A, but the fuse should be resettable

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                                • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                                  @sinbad @eniko @Njord
                                  I got fed up with batteries in door bell button and the "bell" and unreliability (433 MHz).
                                  Eventually I found a real wired pushbutton and BingBong inside box, though that used batteries. So I added a transformer to 8V AC at the fuse box, because the bing-bong real solenoid doesn't care about AC or DC. The bulb in the door bell button is across the switch, so in series & glows orange, thus long life.

                                  1950s technology, but 100% reliable.

                                  No spying to Amazon.

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                                  #28

                                  @raymaccarthy @sinbad @eniko @Njord

                                  We had kinda the opposite in our last house. The button-push was wired to a battery-powered bell box, but the builders had put the bell and the battery directly above a radiator, which meant that we had to change the batteries every six weeks or so, because batteries don't like heat. We eventually gave up on it and installed something mains-powered.

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                                    So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                                    It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                                    Neat!

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                                    #29

                                    @eniko @Njord that's really cool!

                                    So why isn't working as well now? Piezoelectric crystal got consumed or something?

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                                    • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                                      @raymaccarthy @sinbad @eniko @Njord

                                      We had kinda the opposite in our last house. The button-push was wired to a battery-powered bell box, but the builders had put the bell and the battery directly above a radiator, which meant that we had to change the batteries every six weeks or so, because batteries don't like heat. We eventually gave up on it and installed something mains-powered.

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                                      #30

                                      @CppGuy @sinbad @eniko @Njord
                                      I've added mains and/or rechargeable to many battery things starting with a VFD calculator.

                                      Now all the non-heating/cooking stuff is on a Solar & Grid charged UPS. 12 main panels and about 14 kWh of LiFePO4 batteries.
                                      No more annual PC UPS battery replacement.

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                                        So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                                        It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                                        Neat!

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                                        #31

                                        @eniko @Njord I have a button like this too. Feels like magic!

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          Oh right @Njord insisted I tell you, fedi, about this button. It's a big orange button (AC remote for scale) that toggles an extension cord's power on/off when pushed

                                          So far so boring right? Well it had been acting up a bit so we opened it up to change the battery and... no battery?

                                          It apparently uses the mechanical force of pushing the button (it requires a bit of a push!) to trigger a piezoelectric charge which is apparently enough to send a wireless signal to the receiver

                                          Neat!

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                                          #32

                                          @eniko

                                          German CASO has several models of battery free kitchen scales (as an idea, maybe other brands are available locally):
                                          https://caso-design.de/de/p/caso-kitchen-energy-design-kuechenwaage-mit-kitchen-energy-technologie/
                                          (via the menu you can change region to UK - while selecting Benelux doesn't seem to work)

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