Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
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@grote remember, kids: "sideloading" is just "installing software that isn't on the app store." the corpos are just calling it "sideloading" because it sounds shadier.
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maybe Google just doesn’t like developing android anymore and want an excuse to stop having to update it (no more userbase)
#google #android #android-sideloading@msmissing @grote very cynically, one can argue that promos are now tied to making Gemini do more and not android
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Lenovo is pushing back hard on locked in software, selling ThinkPads cheaper if they install linux, their phone division is partnering with a non google non apple OS.
There are avenues and partners, and when Trump is gone let's break up the tech bros monopolizers into very small competing companies. Very small.
Its a BIG fight, its not just phones, its not just the US.
Support, discuss, ORGANIZE.
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with thisYeah fuck this
Time to get a furi or jolla phone
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with thisIn the long term Alphabet are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
I note that Canadian company Graphene has announced a partnership with Motorola. For clarification, it appears at this stage these Motorola phones will be developed in partnership with Graphene, shipping with Android but fully Graphene ready.
If these are good (Motorola make good hardware) I will set up a biz to obtain commercial quantities of these and beginning offering them for sale already flashed with Graphene.
Things are getting so bad even non nerd boomers are coming to me expressing concern about relying on bug tech of the former US and asking me for advice so there is a market for 'clean' devices.
Anyway, back to my point, once more privacy respecting alternatives are commercially available Android will lose ground and the rivers of gold of AD revenue begin drying up in the same way Windows 11 is prompting an exodus to Linux.
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@grote wow. for a second i thought this was satire, but then i clicked on the link and it's literally as you say.
why do i have a feeling this is not really about security?
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@grote it will REQUIRE biometrics? See, @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57 this is what I mean. Whole world wants to put biometrics in everything. It's nonsense
@jake4480 @grote @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57
No, you can use a device PIN.
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@reallylazybear i've done it too. it's not really hard. it just requires at least 4 hours of work and the last time i did it i ended up with a phone that my sim card would not function in so it ended up being a complete failure
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@jake4480 @grote @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57
No, you can use a device PIN.
@resuna @grote @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57 oh good, that's a relief
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@grote you're going to disable this in your custom builds anyway, right?
@jernej Right, but I am more worried about the unverified developer community and @fdroidorg
Who will still develop for the handful of power users going through this flow?
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I found a credit union in one quick search that allows at least some browser access ...
This is a fight, find allies. Credit unions are better than banks, many much better.
@kevinrns @utf_7 @grote
A Credit Union In the USA for anyone anywhere that's not American and not living in the USA? Are you demented?There are of course Credit Unions in Ireland. Yes, you can lodge money and get loans. They are not suitable for my use case.
The Irish An Post (State Post Office) has banking but they discontinued any access on the Web site and also required quite recent versions of Android (or iOS), several years ago. -
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote I was literally just thinking about how it frequently seems like Google does things under the guise of "security hardening" that also just happens to have the convenient side effect of further locking users into their ecosystem.
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@kevinrns @utf_7 @grote
A Credit Union In the USA for anyone anywhere that's not American and not living in the USA? Are you demented?There are of course Credit Unions in Ireland. Yes, you can lodge money and get loans. They are not suitable for my use case.
The Irish An Post (State Post Office) has banking but they discontinued any access on the Web site and also required quite recent versions of Android (or iOS), several years ago.Yes yes I am.
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with thisHonestly If this didn't have the 24 hour period I wouldn't mind much, but fuck is that going to be annoying
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@grote wow. for a second i thought this was satire, but then i clicked on the link and it's literally as you say.
why do i have a feeling this is not really about security?
@luatic @grote Come on now, this *only* makes sense as a security measure. It doesn't make sense as a way to lock down the phone totally, because then they could just... lock down the phone totally.
It absolutely makes sense as a response to the attack vector of tricking someone into installing malware by telling them to turn on developer mode, though.
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@grote Wow that is so hard.
I can feel the issue of avoiding people being tricked but with them I have some doubts.
Also why do I need to use biometrics?@chand_v_post @grote That seems to just be shorthand for "unlock your device", since that is usually done with biometrics.
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@ziclaud oh god HyperOS, that one is a nightmare to try and unlock compared to MIUI. My condolences.
You need a 30-day old Mi Account, the Xiaomi Community App and have a Global device. CN devices running HyperOS can't be unlocked anymore, because phone unlocking is illegal in mainland China since 2022 when the government passed a decision to outlaw it.
And with it is the "quota reached" bug that requires you to apply for unlocking at midnight Beijing time. Hell, now you have to run some Python script or whatever, from a brief look through XDA Forums.
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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this@grote What the fuck
