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  3. Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • alextecplayz@techhub.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #246

    @ziclaud oh god HyperOS, that one is a nightmare to try and unlock compared to MIUI. My condolences.

    You need a 30-day old Mi Account, the Xiaomi Community App and have a Global device. CN devices running HyperOS can't be unlocked anymore, because phone unlocking is illegal in mainland China since 2022 when the government passed a decision to outlaw it.

    And with it is the "quota reached" bug that requires you to apply for unlocking at midnight Beijing time. Hell, now you have to run some Python script or whatever, from a brief look through XDA Forums.

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day
      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
      * confirm that you accept the risks
      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

      zeldathebunny@girlcock.clubZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      zeldathebunny@girlcock.club
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #247

      @grote What the fuck

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      • oatrapado@mastodon.socialO oatrapado@mastodon.social

        @Frenezul0_o @grote those chinese/european phones are just obsolete and overprized, pinephone another archeological piece at a high price.

        thomasdorr@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        thomasdorr@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #248

        @oatrapado
        Let's be fair its a pocket tablet that can also make phone calls, and the calls are often not the primary purpose any longer
        @Frenezul0_o @grote

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        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

          * enable developer options
          * confirm that you are not tricked
          * restart phone and re-authenticate
          * wait one day
          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
          * confirm that you accept the risks
          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

          idiot@mastodonapp.ukI This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #249

          @grote how long before banking apps refuse to run with app freedom ("side loading") enabled.

          #android

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day
            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
            * confirm that you accept the risks
            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

            oldrup@mastodon.greenO This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #250

            @grote Mum gets scammed A LOT and solely from apps in the Google Play Store. Like Facebook. Sideloaded apps is the least of our problems.

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            • lexyeen@plush.cityL lexyeen@plush.city

              @grote remember, kids: "sideloading" is just "installing software that isn't on the app store." the corpos are just calling it "sideloading" because it sounds shadier.

              alisonw@fedimon.ukA This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #251

              @LexYeen @grote
              As bad as the USA car industry creating "jaywalking" as an imaginary crime in order to sell more cars. (Not a crime anywhere else)

              lexyeen@plush.cityL me@mastodon.cysioland.plM 2 Replies Last reply
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              • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                @Li @grote

                funnily at the moment it isn't. There have been some leaks as in some instances they "forget" to wipe it after use.

                Edit: But yea, they'd probably get it signed through governmental pressure in the end either way...

                nobody@mastodon.acm.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #252

                @agowa338
                If only there were a technology that let's you use your own root of trust
                @Li @grote

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                • nobody@mastodon.acm.orgN nobody@mastodon.acm.org

                  @agowa338
                  If only there were a technology that let's you use your own root of trust
                  @Li @grote

                  li@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  li@tech.lgbt
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #253

                  @nobody @agowa338 @grote hah its the thing i said https://tech.lgbt/@Li/116257681293741665

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                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                    * enable developer options
                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                    * wait one day
                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                    zansystemit@mastodon.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    zansystemit@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #254

                    @grote how will integrate any non-android enterprise mdm base? Direct push apk it is a must.

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                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                      * enable developer options
                      * confirm that you are not tricked
                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                      * wait one day
                      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                      * confirm that you accept the risks
                      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                      b@mrrp.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #255

                      @grote aaaaaaa ,, this type of flow would be great for something that's extremely frequently abused by scammers and is only rarely used legitimately, but sideloading apps is way too common and useful for this type of flow to be justifiable for any stated reason they have (and of course, we all know what the real reason is)

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                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                        * enable developer options
                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                        * wait one day
                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                        tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #256

                        @grote I hate phones!

                        Somebody make a one newer than 2018 that is compatible with #postmarketos please!!!!

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                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                          * enable developer options
                          * confirm that you are not tricked
                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                          * wait one day
                          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                          * confirm that you accept the risks
                          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                          crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          crazyeddie@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #257

                          @grote https://clip.cafe/the-man-with-two-brains-1983/goddamn-drunk-tests-are-hard/

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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                            * enable developer options
                            * confirm that you are not tricked
                            * restart phone and re-authenticate
                            * wait one day
                            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                            * confirm that you accept the risks
                            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                            ottermatic@woof.groupO This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #258

                            @grote what a fucking joke.

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                            • hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH hellomiakoda@pdx.social

                              @lumi @grote This is why I put up with constant issues to carry a Linux phone.
                              Microsoft and Google are the best at convincing me to be patient with #Linux.

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                              tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #259

                              @hellomiakoda @lumi @grote furiphone looking mighty good more and more

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                              • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                @tedmielczarek @grote No, it was a real job I had at a real company. I just wondered whether people would still be able to do that.

                                crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #260

                                @TimWardCam @tedmielczarek @grote Looks to me like you'd disable this silly stuff on all the phones you manage and call it good...you're just back to the situation as it exists.

                                The real pain here is that people install fdroid from the play store thinking they can then install apps but they won't be able to without "disabling security". Other than that it seems like it's a one time annoyance -- less than if you just load lineage or something to begin with.

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                                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                  * enable developer options
                                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                  * wait one day
                                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                                  flower@pony.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  flower@pony.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #261

                                  @grote Eh, not a fan of giving Google biometrics. The 1 day wait is kinda -- petty, but OK -- the rest I sorta expected.

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                                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                    * enable developer options
                                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                    * wait one day
                                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                                    dertizen@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    dertizen@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #262

                                    @grote that is trash- like the whole #DIDay is a choaching session but for reclaim privacy not taking them.
                                    > You Son isnt allowed to Guide you anymore, take you Candycrush and watch our holy ADs AND tell me EVERYTHING YOU DO with this lil Device, ma'am

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                                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                      * enable developer options
                                      * confirm that you are not tricked
                                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                      * wait one day
                                      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                      * confirm that you accept the risks
                                      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                                      chuff@bark.wolp.chatC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      chuff@bark.wolp.chat
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #263

                                      I suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.

                                      gabboman@gabboman.xyzG glennmagusharvey@app.wafrn.netG 2 Replies Last reply
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                                      • chuff@bark.wolp.chatC chuff@bark.wolp.chat

                                        I suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.

                                        gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        gabboman@gabboman.xyz
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #264

                                        I can send my famiky a link to an apk and they can install it.

                                        Now its no longer an option

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                                        • serk@neopaquita.esS serk@neopaquita.es

                                          @grote
                                          Or switch to a degoogle os.

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                                          katherine_montalto@zirk.us
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                                          #265

                                          @serk @grote so I have a degoogled os, no Google play store. I'm still going to be able to get apps right? This is just a problem for play store?

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