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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

    * enable developer options
    * confirm that you are not tricked
    * restart phone and re-authenticate
    * wait one day
    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
    * confirm that you accept the risks
    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #249

    @grote how long before banking apps refuse to run with app freedom ("side loading") enabled.

    #android

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day
      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
      * confirm that you accept the risks
      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

      oldrup@mastodon.greenO This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #250

      @grote Mum gets scammed A LOT and solely from apps in the Google Play Store. Like Facebook. Sideloaded apps is the least of our problems.

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      • lexyeen@plush.cityL lexyeen@plush.city

        @grote remember, kids: "sideloading" is just "installing software that isn't on the app store." the corpos are just calling it "sideloading" because it sounds shadier.

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        #251

        @LexYeen @grote
        As bad as the USA car industry creating "jaywalking" as an imaginary crime in order to sell more cars. (Not a crime anywhere else)

        lexyeen@plush.cityL me@mastodon.cysioland.plM 2 Replies Last reply
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        • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

          @Li @grote

          funnily at the moment it isn't. There have been some leaks as in some instances they "forget" to wipe it after use.

          Edit: But yea, they'd probably get it signed through governmental pressure in the end either way...

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          #252

          @agowa338
          If only there were a technology that let's you use your own root of trust
          @Li @grote

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          • nobody@mastodon.acm.orgN nobody@mastodon.acm.org

            @agowa338
            If only there were a technology that let's you use your own root of trust
            @Li @grote

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #253

            @nobody @agowa338 @grote hah its the thing i said https://tech.lgbt/@Li/116257681293741665

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day
              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
              * confirm that you accept the risks
              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

              zansystemit@mastodon.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #254

              @grote how will integrate any non-android enterprise mdm base? Direct push apk it is a must.

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              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                * enable developer options
                * confirm that you are not tricked
                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                * wait one day
                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                * confirm that you accept the risks
                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                b@mrrp.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #255

                @grote aaaaaaa ,, this type of flow would be great for something that's extremely frequently abused by scammers and is only rarely used legitimately, but sideloading apps is way too common and useful for this type of flow to be justifiable for any stated reason they have (and of course, we all know what the real reason is)

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                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                  * enable developer options
                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                  * wait one day
                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #256

                  @grote I hate phones!

                  Somebody make a one newer than 2018 that is compatible with #postmarketos please!!!!

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                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                    * enable developer options
                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                    * wait one day
                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #257

                    @grote https://clip.cafe/the-man-with-two-brains-1983/goddamn-drunk-tests-are-hard/

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                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                      * enable developer options
                      * confirm that you are not tricked
                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                      * wait one day
                      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                      * confirm that you accept the risks
                      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #258

                      @grote what a fucking joke.

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                      • hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH hellomiakoda@pdx.social

                        @lumi @grote This is why I put up with constant issues to carry a Linux phone.
                        Microsoft and Google are the best at convincing me to be patient with #Linux.

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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #259

                        @hellomiakoda @lumi @grote furiphone looking mighty good more and more

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                        • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                          @tedmielczarek @grote No, it was a real job I had at a real company. I just wondered whether people would still be able to do that.

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                          #260

                          @TimWardCam @tedmielczarek @grote Looks to me like you'd disable this silly stuff on all the phones you manage and call it good...you're just back to the situation as it exists.

                          The real pain here is that people install fdroid from the play store thinking they can then install apps but they won't be able to without "disabling security". Other than that it seems like it's a one time annoyance -- less than if you just load lineage or something to begin with.

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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                            * enable developer options
                            * confirm that you are not tricked
                            * restart phone and re-authenticate
                            * wait one day
                            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                            * confirm that you accept the risks
                            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #261

                            @grote Eh, not a fan of giving Google biometrics. The 1 day wait is kinda -- petty, but OK -- the rest I sorta expected.

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                            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                              * enable developer options
                              * confirm that you are not tricked
                              * restart phone and re-authenticate
                              * wait one day
                              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                              * confirm that you accept the risks
                              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                              dertizen@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #262

                              @grote that is trash- like the whole #DIDay is a choaching session but for reclaim privacy not taking them.
                              > You Son isnt allowed to Guide you anymore, take you Candycrush and watch our holy ADs AND tell me EVERYTHING YOU DO with this lil Device, ma'am

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                              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                * enable developer options
                                * confirm that you are not tricked
                                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                * wait one day
                                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                * confirm that you accept the risks
                                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                                chuff@bark.wolp.chatC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                chuff@bark.wolp.chat
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #263

                                I suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.

                                gabboman@gabboman.xyzG glennmagusharvey@app.wafrn.netG 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • chuff@bark.wolp.chatC chuff@bark.wolp.chat

                                  I suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.

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                                  gabboman@gabboman.xyz
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #264

                                  I can send my famiky a link to an apk and they can install it.

                                  Now its no longer an option

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                                  • serk@neopaquita.esS serk@neopaquita.es

                                    @grote
                                    Or switch to a degoogle os.

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                                    #265

                                    @serk @grote so I have a degoogled os, no Google play store. I'm still going to be able to get apps right? This is just a problem for play store?

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                                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                      * enable developer options
                                      * confirm that you are not tricked
                                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                      * wait one day
                                      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                      * confirm that you accept the risks
                                      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #266

                                      @grote@chaos.social While this is not good, it is a lot less bad than I was expecting. I thought they were going to make it so you have to unlock the bootloader and install a distro to install apps Google doesn't approve of, which would make it unavailable on the vast majority of phone.

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                                      • chuff@bark.wolp.chatC chuff@bark.wolp.chat

                                        I suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.

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                                        glennmagusharvey@app.wafrn.net
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                                        #267

                                        The bigger problem is that a number of those devs are gonna stop work on those apps because of this.

                                        Fuck Google.

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                                        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                          @valpackett @old_angry_queer @grote

                                          You're right. I totally missed that.

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                                          #268

                                          @terminaltilt @valpackett @old_angry_queer @grote

                                          Am I missing a new Android feature, can one sign into the device with biometrics after rebooting?

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