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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

    * enable developer options
    * confirm that you are not tricked
    * restart phone and re-authenticate
    * wait one day
    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
    * confirm that you accept the risks
    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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    #297

    @grote@chaos.social Stop using corporate language; this isn't a sideload, it's an installation. Just because it's done outside of Google Play Store doesn't make it any less of an installation. That's how they get to us - by taking away our speech.

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day
      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
      * confirm that you accept the risks
      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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      #298

      @grote "Advanced flow", meaning advanced cash flow into Google's greasy, greedy pockets.

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        They even have a video up where they try to make this all sound nice and positive:

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        #299

        @grote "For power users, we think this is a fair trade-off." Now go and ask the power users.

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        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

          * enable developer options
          * confirm that you are not tricked
          * restart phone and re-authenticate
          * wait one day
          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
          * confirm that you accept the risks
          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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          #300

          @grote will the phone be considered as "insecure" für banking apps?

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day
            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
            * confirm that you accept the risks
            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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            #301

            @grote
            Allamaraine levels of complication.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urixf-E6SWE

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day
              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
              * confirm that you accept the risks
              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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              #302

              @grote
              What the tricolor foaming fuck

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              • kanary@sharkey.worldK kanary@sharkey.world

                @grote@chaos.social on Grapheneos you've to do the following

                • Nothing
                #grapheneos #fuckgoogle

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                #303

                @kanary @grote many usw grapheneOS with Google play. Let's see how they will do.

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                • khleedril@cyberplace.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #304

                  @kepstin @LexYeen @grote The analogy I like to use is to imagine an old flour mill, with the loading door 30 feet in the air accompanied by an overhanging hook used to hold a hoist.

                  App stores are like loading flour by hoisting bags up to the virtually inaccessible loading door.

                  But if you just toss a bag of flour over your shoulder, walk in through the side door and go upstairs with it, no problem. That's side-loading!

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                  • deborahh@cosocial.caD deborahh@cosocial.ca

                    @grote @gnomon
                    "with biometrics" …
                    Na-uhn. Nope. 👎

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                    #305

                    @deborahh @grote @gnomon It does say with biometrics or PIN, so you use your normal login method.

                    The whole thing is still 🤢 though

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                    • alisonw@fedimon.ukA alisonw@fedimon.uk

                      @LexYeen @grote
                      As bad as the USA car industry creating "jaywalking" as an imaginary crime in order to sell more cars. (Not a crime anywhere else)

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                      #306

                      @AlisonW @LexYeen @grote it's a violation in Poland and when a driver runs you over while you're jaywalking you get a ticket

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                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                        * enable developer options
                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                        * wait one day
                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                        #307

                        @grote It is about time the EU intervened. Setting up unreasonable hurdles to access third party apps is enforcing the own part of the duopoly of smartphone operating systems.

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                        • tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one

                          @grote I hate phones!

                          Somebody make a one newer than 2018 that is compatible with #postmarketos please!!!!

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                          #308

                          @tootbrute @grote https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_5_(fairphone-fp5)

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                          • theycallmehacked@social.tchncs.deT theycallmehacked@social.tchncs.de

                            @tootbrute @grote https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_5_(fairphone-fp5)

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                            #309

                            @TheyCallMeHacked @grote i live in Taiwan. They do not sell them here. Don't sell Jolla either.

                            Not sure if Furiphone can be shipped here. I need to register to look at my shopping cart there weirdly.

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                            • waha_06x36@mastodon.socialW waha_06x36@mastodon.social

                              @chand_v_post @grote That seems to just be shorthand for "unlock your device", since that is usually done with biometrics.

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                              #310

                              @WAHa_06x36 @grote thanks for the explanation.
                              I feel like google did not think about real tools to help people beside make as hard as possible to use 3rd party software.
                              No anti virus (that windows has it), no isolation tools, app verifier, only google protect but not sure about it (is it enough) .

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                              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                * enable developer options
                                * confirm that you are not tricked
                                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                * wait one day
                                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                * confirm that you accept the risks
                                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                #311

                                @grote
                                1. Keep forcing every serious developer to register with Google and accept their terms
                                2. Make it look like a security and safety feature

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                                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                  * enable developer options
                                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                  * wait one day
                                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                  #312

                                  @grote feels like there should be a "do a backflip" bulletin somewhere along the way.

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                                  • lexyeen@plush.cityL lexyeen@plush.city

                                    @grote remember, kids: "sideloading" is just "installing software that isn't on the app store." the corpos are just calling it "sideloading" because it sounds shadier.

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                                    #313

                                    @LexYeen @grote
                                    Yeah, it's just a computer. It's specifically *your* computer. They have created a disparaging term for running the software you want on your own computer.

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                                    • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                      @tedmielczarek @grote I'm thinking of a small company with a dozen or so developers who have one Android app that talks to their back end, for use by a few dozen installation crews. Anything with "enterprise" in its name would be *vastly* too expensive to be of any use to a company like that.

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                                      #314

                                      @TimWardCam @tedmielczarek @grote I think it opens opportunity for linux phones. Purism, Jolla, Volla, postmarketOS... Apps work both on desktop and phones, saving costs all around.

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                                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                        They even have a video up where they try to make this all sound nice and positive:

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                                        #315

                                        @grote he lost me first when calling it that made up term instead of installing. Then lost me again by holding a microphone in his fingers in a video.... I find this trend so distracting and silly lol.

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                                        • benjistokman@mast.benstokman.meB benjistokman@mast.benstokman.me

                                          @grote the fact that there's a reboot in the chain proves that even Google doesn't believe closing down android keeps users safe

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                                          #316

                                          @benjistokman how is "close down android" different from reboot (which is turn off and restart)?

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