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Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

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  • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

    @jalefkowit no, yeah, sigh. it's a bit of a recurring problem

    part of it is because they're playing two different games. power and popularity is a very different goal from helping people do things

    thinking that way has helped us accept it, over the years..... but maybe the stakes are high enough that we should not accept it. hm.

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    #34

    @ireneista @jalefkowit Honestly, a critical mass of people accepting this sort of thing is why it can happen in cases where the stakes are so high in the first place?
    Accepting shitty behaviour gives (social) permission to keep doing the shitty thing.

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    • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

      @ireneista @jalefkowit Honestly, a critical mass of people accepting this sort of thing is why it can happen in cases where the stakes are so high in the first place?
      Accepting shitty behaviour gives (social) permission to keep doing the shitty thing.

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      #35

      @miss_rodent @jalefkowit yeah, sigh, that sounds right. "the standard you walk past is the standard you accept"

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      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

        @miss_rodent @jalefkowit yeah, sigh, that sounds right. "the standard you walk past is the standard you accept"

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        #36

        @ireneista @miss_rodent @jalefkowit Yes, and also choosing one's battles. There's a tension there but there's wisdom in each?

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        • gnyman@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #37

          @jalefkowit mastodon has been around for so long and also is different on an idealistic level so I don't think it can compete for the masses.

          And I wouldn't say EU hasn't been trying, they have funded mastodon through nlnet and they are trying, @HennaVirkkunen is here.

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          • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

            Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

            Oh, right

            https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

            jagermo@defcon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #38

            @jalefkowit
            Fucking Rössler is part of this? Yeah, no. That guy has more red flags than a sowjet parade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_R%C3%B6sler

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            • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

              Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

              Oh, right

              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

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              #39

              @jalefkowit I think the issue is that moderation on mastodon is decentralized. That makes it effectively impossible to enforce strict rules from the top down.
              People in power will not support a platform that doesn't give them absolute power.

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              • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                @ireneista @miss_rodent @jalefkowit Yes, and also choosing one's battles. There's a tension there but there's wisdom in each?

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                #40

                @xgranade @miss_rodent @jalefkowit these are important questions, but they're backwards-looking. to focus on the future: what should our strategy be?

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                • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                  Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                  Oh, right

                  https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                  daniel_pagenstecher@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #41

                  @jalefkowit Philipp Rösler????? Der lebt noch? Da haben sie aber echte Lappen hinter dem Ofen vorgezogen...

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                  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                    Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                    Oh, right

                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                    annaantifa@mastodon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #42

                    @jalefkowit
                    Never heard of it. But I don't use other socials, only Mastodon

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                    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                      Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                      Oh, right

                      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                      volkris@qoto.orgV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #43

                      @jalefkowit

                      This is reaching too far into conspiracy theory.

                      Sounds like W Social simply offers government more chance for, well, governance than something like Mastodon would.

                      No need to look for drama or personalities. Government wants to govern.

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                      • gnyman@infosec.exchangeG gnyman@infosec.exchange

                        @jalefkowit mastodon has been around for so long and also is different on an idealistic level so I don't think it can compete for the masses.

                        And I wouldn't say EU hasn't been trying, they have funded mastodon through nlnet and they are trying, @HennaVirkkunen is here.

                        humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #44

                        @gnyman @jalefkowit @HennaVirkkunen lick those boots harder

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                        • mim54@mstdn.socialM mim54@mstdn.social

                          @jalefkowit maybe because they can’t “control “ Mastodon?

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                          #45

                          @mim54 @jalefkowit thats more like it

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                          • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                            Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                            Oh, right

                            https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                            catwoman69y2k@meow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #46

                            @jalefkowit it is said to "Follow the money"

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                            • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                              Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                              Oh, right

                              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                              cmthiede@social.vivaldi.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #47

                              @jalefkowit It's a world wide class war, hopefully patriotism will take a club to nationalism and everyone bands together to topple the overlords from the chairs.

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                              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                                Oh, right

                                https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                virginicus@universeodon.comV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #48

                                @jalefkowit Whom can we get for Mastodon’s Board of Advisors?

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                                • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                  Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                                  Oh, right

                                  https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                  richpuchalsky@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #49

                                  @jalefkowit

                                  W social has the exciting new slogan for social media "Join the waitlist"

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                                  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                    Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                                    Oh, right

                                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                    netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #50

                                    @jalefkowit also #Zensursula loves mandatory #SelfDoxxing!

                                    https://aseachange.com/@elena/statuses/01KVD55YBYVM3B46ACQTECDMT2

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                                    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                      Why would the EU get behind W Social, a European social media platform that barely exists, rather than Mastodon, a European social media platform that has been successfully operating for a decade?

                                      Oh, right

                                      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                      thaodan@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #51

                                      @jalefkowit DE-Mail all over again.
                                      This network will be just another techbro blob that's gonna be flamed it's general flaws and security holes.

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