Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
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@jwz out of curiosity, what is a good, trustworthy, no nonsense upstart web browser these days?
@GreatBigTable @jwz For *some* definition of "good" (but fully satisfying the other criteria), I guess we're all heading back to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwise, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCSA_Mosaic
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz I honestly thought you might have been exaggerating, but then I clicked through to the article...and jesus effing christ, the whole board need to be launched into the sun.
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz
They are not spending 1.4 billion on AI. This would be silly to spend all their money. But they will spend 20% of their annual budget on AI, roughly $120M. Still a lot of money. -
@jwz
Meanwhile the AI companies are burning the planet to build browsers from scratch as a benchmark.
https://cursor.com/blog/scaling-agentsThis is how we all lose.
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@poujolrost
That's because it's not the real amount. This headline is wrong.
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@csstrowbridge @jwz second vivaldi - &, yeah, i know it's built with chrome infrastructure, but they've sworn an anti-AI oath.
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
Thanks for reminding me to cancel my recurring Mozilla donation.
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@jwz I honestly thought you might have been exaggerating, but then I clicked through to the article...and jesus effing christ, the whole board need to be launched into the sun.
@slightlyoff @jwz When Mozilla crashes along with the AI bubble, maybe the developers worth saving can be rehomed under Servo, as I believe that is organized under the Linux Foundation and funded by the EU Sovereign fund, so there is some structure which could be expanded to cover the need, if primary maintainer ship for Firefox needed to move to a new stable org.
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@slightlyoff @jwz When Mozilla crashes along with the AI bubble, maybe the developers worth saving can be rehomed under Servo, as I believe that is organized under the Linux Foundation and funded by the EU Sovereign fund, so there is some structure which could be expanded to cover the need, if primary maintainer ship for Firefox needed to move to a new stable org.
This is like when Sun was failing and people threw as much code as they could over the wall so they could catch it and build around it afterwards, spawning LibreOffice and several ZFS-based storage companies.
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz Their money comes from Google. They do what Alphabet tell them to do. This is the elephant in the room with Mozilla.
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@jwz What is with their Goatse logo?
@earwigplanet @jwz Reach inside a gaping asshole and you find... Firefox.
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz I can't believe you missed the goatse tag
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz
I would have been shocked if it went any other way at this point. -
Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz amazing
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz Mozilla should just donate money to Servo and Ladybird.
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz Maybe I will sound like Cato " Carthago delenda est" to say it over and over again, but for now Mozilla has last independent browser engine. I know about Google donations for it, but still until new engine is not ready we have only Mozilla with all Headquarter stupidity.
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Mozilla has 1.4 BILLION dollars that they are spending on some AI bullshit.
That's billion with a B. So if you held out hope that filling out surveys or shitposting through it might turn this ship around, no. That much money has an event horizon.
Mozilla is cooked.
@jwz That's it, I'm backing up my bookmarks and changing browsers, I'm not even anti-AI, but this is just ridiculous, nobody is asking for this.
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Vivaldi is neat. And the promised not to put any AI in their Browser.
@czauner @csstrowbridge The problem with that being that they need to release & relicense their source code before allocating any amount of trust to them is even remotely on the table.
