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  3. i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny.

i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny.

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  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

    AI people literally cannot help but immediately go for "automate love for my children" holy shit HOW is this ALWAYS the first use case. I love how literally everything failed here and the headline still reads "muse is very powerful"
    https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-muse-review-access-to-emails-credit-cards-health-data-2026-9

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    #34

    @jonny
    > I also asked it to look at my credit and debit cards and tell me what subscription I could cancel — it suggested Flickr (for irrational reasons only understandable to my human soul, I'm keeping it).

    I love this. The LLM made the wrong suggestion and the writer assumes it's her fault.

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    • oldoldcojote@climatejustice.socialO oldoldcojote@climatejustice.social

      @jonny

      I remember when people use to behave this way with peyote, lsd, and mushrooms.

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      #35

      @oldoldcojote @jonny the Grateful Dead song Estimated Prophet rings through my head pretty much any time a tech person says anything nowadays

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      • penryn@www.librepunk.clubP penryn@www.librepunk.club

        @jonny I'm still hung up on the idea that someone would have duplicate paid subscriptions?

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        #36

        @penryn
        Some people make too much money

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        • starkraving666@jorts.horseS starkraving666@jorts.horse

          @jonny paywalled 😕

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          #37

          @starkraving666
          Huh, weird, wasnt earlier. This works: https://archive.is/WMNXM

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          • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

            AI people literally cannot help but immediately go for "automate love for my children" holy shit HOW is this ALWAYS the first use case. I love how literally everything failed here and the headline still reads "muse is very powerful"
            https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-muse-review-access-to-emails-credit-cards-health-data-2026-9

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            #38

            @jonny Them: how can I automate interactions with my child??

            Me: after a day having my soul crushed by LLMs in tech shit while managing multiple chronic health conditions, how do I engage with my tween who doesn’t want to spend time with me so that life feels worthwhile.

            (she’s delightful today actually even if she won’t engage with me much.)

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            • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

              i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.

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              #39

              @jonny

              But other than that, it was great, right?

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              • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                the fight brewing over the advertising eyeballs is also very funny to me. Amazon blocks Meta's agent product because it destroys their ad market, of course. But since every company is actually an ad company, you'd expect all of them to follow suit unless they reach an arrangement in a shakedown. The idea of consumer chatbot agents being exactly like the fractured streaming landscape is so awesome, subscribing to five different whole life surveillance apps so that you can avoid the tedium of typing "chicken" and clicking "buy" with 100% accuracy in favor of typing "buy chicken" and clicking "send" with some unknowable nonzero failure rate.

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                #40

                @jonny

                I'll be highly amused when the AIs tear each other appart and transfer corporate bank accounts to unknown locations. Can we feed them something viral to help them along? 😸

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                • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                  i have seen several other articles and blog posts link to the nyt piece as like "it would be foolish to believe these things weren't useful" and i am convinced that not only do uncritically pro-AI people not read any of the output, they don't read anything anymore.

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                  #41

                  @jonny

                  Have you not ever worked for corporate america. Ignorance of everything outside the company creed is taboo. 😂

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                  • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                    @oldoldcojote @jonny It is not a coincidence that literally the same people are pushing both psychedelics and bullshit generators on the masses. https://www.akjournals.com/view/journals/2054/7/S1/article-p22.xml

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                    #42

                    @be @jonny

                    The best part is they suck the stuff up themselves. Lethal brain dose is pretty low. I love how many think ketamine is the cats meow. 😸

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                    • cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC cyberquixote@infosec.exchange

                      @oldoldcojote @jonny

                      oh yeah I mean some of those folks are in charge of these companies ya know, they had a vision and they saw everything!!!!!!!

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                      #43

                      @cyberquixote @jonny

                      Mostly the drunks. I use to close deals over bottles of tequilla. I'm good at switching shot glasses.

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                      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                        i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.

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                        #44

                        @jonny on the Meta apps, they are desperately trying to push Muse and it's frankly sad. It reminds me of the metaverse debacle.

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                        • oldoldcojote@climatejustice.socialO oldoldcojote@climatejustice.social

                          @be @jonny

                          The best part is they suck the stuff up themselves. Lethal brain dose is pretty low. I love how many think ketamine is the cats meow. 😸

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                          @oldoldcojote Eh? Ketamine isn't very acutely toxic; people don't often die of ketamine overdoses. It is definitely toxic to the urinary system with regular, chronic use though.

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                          • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                            @oldoldcojote Eh? Ketamine isn't very acutely toxic; people don't often die of ketamine overdoses. It is definitely toxic to the urinary system with regular, chronic use though.

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                            @be

                            Take enough it does a job on your brain. I suppose you may still be breathing.

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                            • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                              @oldoldcojote Eh? Ketamine isn't very acutely toxic; people don't often die of ketamine overdoses. It is definitely toxic to the urinary system with regular, chronic use though.

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                              #47

                              @be https://americanaddictioncenters.org/ketamine-abuse/overdose-dangers

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                              • oldoldcojote@climatejustice.socialO oldoldcojote@climatejustice.social

                                @be https://americanaddictioncenters.org/ketamine-abuse/overdose-dangers

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                                @oldoldcojote Your source supports what I just said: "Death by ketamine overdose rarely occurs if ketamine is the only drug someone takes."

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                                • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                                  @oldoldcojote Your source supports what I just said: "Death by ketamine overdose rarely occurs if ketamine is the only drug someone takes."

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                                  @oldoldcojote Exaggerating the harms of drugs only helps cops. Ketamine has real harms, no need to invent ones that it doesn't have.

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                                  • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                    i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.

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                                    The Times headline promises a life handed over to the machine and delivers a list of tasks anyone with a bank statement and a phone can manage themselves. The irony is rich enough to warrant a monument.

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                                    • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                                      @oldoldcojote Exaggerating the harms of drugs only helps cops. Ketamine has real harms, no need to invent ones that it doesn't have.

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                                      @be

                                      So you read the paper but only grabbed the one fact that it doesnt kill people when used in medically apñropriate ways. How old are you? Ever lived on the street? People don't do recreation drugs at safe doses and un mixed with other things, especially with alcohol. I've had friends die of ketamine mixed with smoking hash and drinking alcohol. When you've been around 70+ years the way things work may not be so clear cut in your mind.

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                                      • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                        i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.

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                                        #52

                                        @jonny @fsinn hang on … Meta's "Muse" is agentic AI for the masses? 😰

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                                        • jonny@neuromatch.socialJ jonny@neuromatch.social

                                          i had missed meta's muse product and man the hype press is so funny. the nyt's puff piece that is actually titled "I gave my life over to meta's A.I. agent and was blown away" cites three good things that it can do without problems: find duplicate subscriptions when given full access to a bank account, handle a call to dental insurance, and buy things from amazon. well, I can discover duplicate subscriptions by "looking at my bank statement," the calls were made by a person in a call center, and amazon banned muse from buying things. Aside from that, it failed to fill in a web form from a company who didn't partner with meta (which presumably means some streamlined deterministic api or mcp), and spent multiple days lowballing people for plates on facebook marketplace before the person stepped in paid full price. I am looking around for other positive reviews and they are all like this lmao.

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                                          @jonny One thing it is apparently quite good at is being a prompt injection victim: https://mouse.dev/blog/muse-runtime-export/

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