Here's my first Mastodon post!
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I think it depends on your instance. In mine we are offered to use LibreTranslate.
I didn't know DeepL, but it's a good looking option. Nevertheless, it's not free software, so you can find some day they deleted the free plan, or started forcing customers to give them any personal data they want.
On the other hand, you can self-host your own LibreTranslate instance (it doesn't need as much resources as you could think for personal usage).
@teclado @alex_p_roe @FediTips You're right, DeepL isn't free.
Actually the EU does provide free machine translation services, but you need an account and it's just for:
🟣 public administrations
🟣small businesses
🟣academia
🟣non-governmental organisations
🟣Digital Europe programme projects
🟣candidates for EU posts
https://translation.ec.europa.eu/tools-and-resources/ai-translation-and-language-tools_en -
I think it depends on your instance. In mine we are offered to use LibreTranslate.
I didn't know DeepL, but it's a good looking option. Nevertheless, it's not free software, so you can find some day they deleted the free plan, or started forcing customers to give them any personal data they want.
On the other hand, you can self-host your own LibreTranslate instance (it doesn't need as much resources as you could think for personal usage).
It does depend on your instance, your admin will choose a translation system if they have one, usually LibreTranslate or DeepL.
Some instances may not have translation at all because the admin doesn't have the resources to pay for it. If you ask your admin to add translation, it might be a good idea to also offer a donation at the same time.
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@hpod16 @FediTips The trick with AI, and all translation really, is to have a native speaker approve the translation before making it public. AI saves time and the LLMs (not technically AI) can do context sensitive translations, reduce or increase formality levels, or even make texts more persuasive. Very clever stuff
PS I used to some translation work but it has dried up!Just to be clear, the translation services on here are not "AI" in the sense of ChatGPT etc. They aren't large language models.
LibreTranslate and DeepL use a different technology and were founded years before ChatGPT etc.
The term "AI" has been used a bit too freely by the media to the point where people assume it means awful unreliable stuff like ChatGPT and other LLMs.
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Just to be clear, the translation services on here are not "AI" in the sense of ChatGPT etc. They aren't large language models.
LibreTranslate and DeepL use a different technology and were founded years before ChatGPT etc.
The term "AI" has been used a bit too freely by the media to the point where people assume it means awful unreliable stuff like ChatGPT and other LLMs.
@FediTips @alex_p_roe I think "AI" gets a bad name too easily these days, because everyone treats it as synonymous with LLMs like Chat GPT. You can be skeptical of LLMs and generative AI, but still appreciate many technologies that rely on machine learning that have done great things for humanity, like discover new medicines, or make translation better.
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@FediTips @alex_p_roe I think "AI" gets a bad name too easily these days, because everyone treats it as synonymous with LLMs like Chat GPT. You can be skeptical of LLMs and generative AI, but still appreciate many technologies that rely on machine learning that have done great things for humanity, like discover new medicines, or make translation better.
But that's a topic for a whole new thread...Yup. The term is just... it's used so broadly now that it is unclear what it means any more.
It's difficult to even use the term "AI" any more because people assume it means LLMs and generative junk.
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Just to be clear, the translation services on here are not "AI" in the sense of ChatGPT etc. They aren't large language models.
LibreTranslate and DeepL use a different technology and were founded years before ChatGPT etc.
The term "AI" has been used a bit too freely by the media to the point where people assume it means awful unreliable stuff like ChatGPT and other LLMs.
@FediTips DeepL describes itself to use a "advanced LLM", though.
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@FediTips DeepL describes itself to use a "advanced LLM", though.
Ah okay, I wasn't aware of that. I hope it's not going down the path of ChatGPT type stuff
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Yup. The term is just... it's used so broadly now that it is unclear what it means any more.
It's difficult to even use the term "AI" any more because people assume it means LLMs and generative junk.
@FediTips @hpod16 @alex_p_roe It's quite important to differentiate, since e.g. DeepL is protecting your privacy and personal data by only using personal data within the scope of legal regulations, in particular the General Data Protection Regulation ("GDPR") and the German Federal Data Protection Act ("BDSG"). This is also the reason why using DeepL is allowed in German public authorities, but ChatGPT absolutely is not.
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Here's my first Mastodon post!
My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?@hpod16 Hi, and welcome!
Two points:
1. People think there's nobody here, because they wait for followers. But that's not how it works. You have to follow others here.
2. Although originally a German invention, there are people here from all over the world.
There are quite a few Mastodon 101 websites out there that explain how it all works, and who to follow, etc. People just have to find them and read.
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@BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social @FediTips @altbot Remember that LLMs have problems with hallucinating - making things up - it’s an issue that has not been fully resolved yet. This is why translations produced by LLM tech still need checking (by humans) for accuracy.
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@BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social @FediTips @altbot I have experienced the LLM hallucination phenomenon several times. And one LLM I’ve used repeated items when asked for lists.
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@FediTips @hpod16 @alex_p_roe It's quite important to differentiate, since e.g. DeepL is protecting your privacy and personal data by only using personal data within the scope of legal regulations, in particular the General Data Protection Regulation ("GDPR") and the German Federal Data Protection Act ("BDSG"). This is also the reason why using DeepL is allowed in German public authorities, but ChatGPT absolutely is not.
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@alex_p_roe @jill @FediTips
I believe it's German -
@alex_p_roe @jill @FediTips
I believe it's GermanIch liebe einfach, die Seiten, die sich an die Impressumspflicht halten.
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@alex_p_roe @jill @FediTips
I believe it's German@hpod16 @jill @FediTips Yup, based in Cologne, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany - via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepL_Translator
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Ich liebe einfach, die Seiten, die sich an die Impressumspflicht halten.
https://www.deepl.com/de/publisher -
Ich liebe einfach, die Seiten, die sich an die Impressumspflicht halten.
https://www.deepl.com/de/publisher@jill @alex_p_roe @FediTips
when you find the info you were looking for on a well organised website -
@jill @alex_p_roe @FediTips
when you find the info you were looking for on a well organised website -
@alex_p_roe Yeah, I recognised that too. When following the link on the bottom "Impressum", the site name changed to "publisher" instead of imprint since publisher is more known to be used in a well, publishing context.
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@alex_p_roe Yeah, I recognised that too. When following the link on the bottom "Impressum", the site name changed to "publisher" instead of imprint since publisher is more known to be used in a well, publishing context.
