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  3. ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

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  • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

    Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

    https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

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    #3

    @parismarx I read that article when you first posted it, and it’s still solid.

    A question, though, that occurred to me with this Google search change and I was reminded about scanning over this article again: StartPage strips out the trackers from Google search results and offers those for its search results. What’s idea going to happen to it now that Google will effectively not offer any (clickable/reliable/not slop) search results?

    I’m going to throw this onto a stand-alone post as well in case others have any insight.

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    • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

      Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

      https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

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      #4

      @parismarx Duckduckgo is a good search engine... #DOEI

      https://european-alternatives.eu/

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      • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

        ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

        With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

        https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

        #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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        #5

        @parismarx isnt the web already dead?
        To me its virtually useless now

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        • kcpoole@mastodon.auK kcpoole@mastodon.au

          @parismarx isnt the web already dead?
          To me its virtually useless now

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          #6

          @kcpoole @parismarx We're on the open social web right now.

          Rumors of the web's death are greatly exaggerated. 😅

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          • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

            ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

            With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

            https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

            #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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            #7

            @parismarx I read this with much interest. As I was reading I found out that I had already done it!

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            • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

              ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

              With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

              https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

              #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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              #8

              @parismarx I started using #Kagi several months ago. After a quick foray with their free trial, I quickly decided that $10/month was well worth all the value they deliver (search, translate, assistant...).

              Since switching to Kagi, I don't think I've done a single Google search, unless it was by accident.

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              • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

                https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

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                #9

                @parismarx The Norwegian weather service Yr (meaning drizzle) is popular also internationally:
                https://www.yr.no/en
                They also have mobile apps.
                Made by MET Norway and the public broadcasting company NRK. Free and no ads.

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                • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                  ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                  With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                  https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                  #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                  #10

                  @parismarx
                  Fortunately there are other search engines which still work, and some even let you block AI results. Setting google to only search results from before 2019 also helps, but it doesnt work for image searches for some reason.

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                  • thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.socialT thegaffer@hobbitwhispers.social

                    @parismarx I started using #Kagi several months ago. After a quick foray with their free trial, I quickly decided that $10/month was well worth all the value they deliver (search, translate, assistant...).

                    Since switching to Kagi, I don't think I've done a single Google search, unless it was by accident.

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                    #11

                    @thegaffer @parismarx I've also been using Kagi on the $10/month plan and I'm really happy with it for the same reasons.

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                    • kjetilg@mastodon.socialK kjetilg@mastodon.social

                      @parismarx The Norwegian weather service Yr (meaning drizzle) is popular also internationally:
                      https://www.yr.no/en
                      They also have mobile apps.
                      Made by MET Norway and the public broadcasting company NRK. Free and no ads.

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                      #12

                      @kjetilg I'll check it out!

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                      • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                        ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                        With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                        https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                        #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                        #13

                        @parismarx

                        A timely reminder that most products that Google tried to develop itself (instead of buying from competitors) miserably failed all the time!

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                        • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                          ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                          With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                          https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                          #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                          #14

                          @parismarx Haven't used Google search for about two years now. Search is a commodity and there are many alternatives. Getting rid of Google search is surprisingly easy. No network effects, no real incentive to stick with it. You can just go to another search engine. The cost of switching is basically zero.

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                          • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                            ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                            With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                            https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                            #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                            #15

                            @parismarx https://killedbygoogle.com/

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                            • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                              ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                              With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                              https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                              #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                              #16

                              @parismarx

                              It’s an utter stupidity…

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                              • alpacamale@social.cologneA alpacamale@social.cologne

                                @parismarx Haven't used Google search for about two years now. Search is a commodity and there are many alternatives. Getting rid of Google search is surprisingly easy. No network effects, no real incentive to stick with it. You can just go to another search engine. The cost of switching is basically zero.

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                                #17

                                @alpacamale @parismarx Exactly. Similar experience here.

                                IMO Google isn't going to kill the web or search, they're sabotaging their own business model. People are going to move on. At some point, google will inevitably reverse course.

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                                • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                  ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                  With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                  https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                  #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                                  #18

                                  @parismarx

                                  Yep, over a year building a decentrilized search engine, i thought people here would have jump on #TidySearch

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                                  • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                    ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                    With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                    https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                    #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                                    #19

                                    @parismarx well it was fun while it lasted ..

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                                    • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                      ChatGPT was never Google’s biggest threat; it was always its own hubris.

                                      With Search now being sacrificed on the altar of AI dominance, the time has come for users to get serious about moving off Google services. It’s not only destroying its products; it’s trying to further degrade the web itself.

                                      https://disconnect.blog/google-is-its-own-worst-enemy/

                                      #tech #google #search #ai #generativeai #gemini

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                                      #20

                                      @parismarx moved away long time before LLMs got big, all the tracking and searches was linked to what you were fed when it came to advertisements online.

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                                      • jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ jaredwhite@indieweb.social

                                        @kcpoole @parismarx We're on the open social web right now.

                                        Rumors of the web's death are greatly exaggerated. 😅

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                                        #21

                                        @jaredwhite @parismarx I did say virtually useless,
                                        Mastodon and related social or some of the few places left that have not been enshittified

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                                        • parismarx@mastodon.onlineP parismarx@mastodon.online

                                          Last year I put together a guide to help people get off US tech — and that includes Google. There are a lot of alternatives there they will help you make a plan to pull away from Google services, and all the rest of them too.

                                          https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/

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                                          #22

                                          @parismarx
                                          Google Docs is the one holdout. I do use Proton docs when I can but it's not as full-featured as Gdocs sadly

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