Recently, I got my hands on a free Ender 5 Pro, whose Z axis was so bent it looked like a forklift drove over it.
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@3dprinting So, slight rethink. I decided that I'd rather use the Z axis Speedys on the Y with this dual-Y mod: https://www.printables.com/model/520947-ender-5-plus-dual-y-axis-motor-mount/files . In the process, I discovered that the _only_ way to tension the Y belts on the Ender 5 involves _throwing your frame out of square_. Yes really. You have to remove a _structural_ component to _tension the belts_. Wtf Creality.
So yeah, more frame stripdown!
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@3dprinting In the meantime, I've been making progress on the EVA3 I'm going to use. The next step is to make mounts for the dual 5015 fans for part cooling, and also the duct, which will _likely_ be the Tri-Horn. The duct will be made of ASA, as PETG isn't really up to that task. I also need to mount a Biqu Microprobe I have lying around, which will involve both a BLTouch mount _and_ an adapter, because the jank will never cease.
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@3dprinting In the meantime, I've been making progress on the EVA3 I'm going to use. The next step is to make mounts for the dual 5015 fans for part cooling, and also the duct, which will _likely_ be the Tri-Horn. The duct will be made of ASA, as PETG isn't really up to that task. I also need to mount a Biqu Microprobe I have lying around, which will involve both a BLTouch mount _and_ an adapter, because the jank will never cease.
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@3dprinting Today has been a day of... interesting progress. The dual-Y mod is mounted, but is currently quite loose, as I cannot attach it from the top and bottom. The reason? The same M5x10s I need to finish reinforcing the frame.
I think this is _the_ first time I've had a build bottlenecked by _fasteners_. It's kind of absurd. More are on order, but Aliexpress takes a hot minute.
As an aside, this build is starting to look like something Ivan Miranda would make.
27/n
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@3dprinting Today has been a day of... interesting progress. The dual-Y mod is mounted, but is currently quite loose, as I cannot attach it from the top and bottom. The reason? The same M5x10s I need to finish reinforcing the frame.
I think this is _the_ first time I've had a build bottlenecked by _fasteners_. It's kind of absurd. More are on order, but Aliexpress takes a hot minute.
As an aside, this build is starting to look like something Ivan Miranda would make.
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@3dprinting I'm kind of freestyling here, as I don't (yet) have the idlers I need to do the mod properly. I also have to re-belt the Y, but that can wait until I can do the proper Stage 1 work.
One 'fun' discovery is that the Y assembly is weirdly structural on the Ender 5. This is most notable when looking closely at the dual Y. That bearing there is supporting _nothing_, but I can't remove that part, because it ensures the corner doesn't come off the pillar!
28/n
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@3dprinting I'm kind of freestyling here, as I don't (yet) have the idlers I need to do the mod properly. I also have to re-belt the Y, but that can wait until I can do the proper Stage 1 work.
One 'fun' discovery is that the Y assembly is weirdly structural on the Ender 5. This is most notable when looking closely at the dual Y. That bearing there is supporting _nothing_, but I can't remove that part, because it ensures the corner doesn't come off the pillar!
28/n
@3dprinting The eagle-eyed among you might have noticed that the Speedys are gone from the Z axis. This is indeed what has happened, as the dual-Y mod is _definitely_ a better use of Speedys. I managed to find some random garbage motors I could use there instead. Their shaft lengths aren't _quite_ the same, which I suspect _will_ come to bite me later, but that's a problem for future Koz to worry about.
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@3dprinting The eagle-eyed among you might have noticed that the Speedys are gone from the Z axis. This is indeed what has happened, as the dual-Y mod is _definitely_ a better use of Speedys. I managed to find some random garbage motors I could use there instead. Their shaft lengths aren't _quite_ the same, which I suspect _will_ come to bite me later, but that's a problem for future Koz to worry about.
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@3dprinting The wise among you might be scratching your heads right now. "How the hell is he planning to run dual Y _and_ dual Z off a Cheetah?"
Yes, that could be a problem for sure. However, I already figured out a solution to this, in probably _the_ stupidest way possible. I'll explain that next post.
Meanwhile, let's skip even _more_ steps and print the mirrored Y tensioner from Stage 2. Otherwise, I have a _very_ loose corner, and it bothers me.
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@3dprinting The wise among you might be scratching your heads right now. "How the hell is he planning to run dual Y _and_ dual Z off a Cheetah?"
Yes, that could be a problem for sure. However, I already figured out a solution to this, in probably _the_ stupidest way possible. I'll explain that next post.
Meanwhile, let's skip even _more_ steps and print the mirrored Y tensioner from Stage 2. Otherwise, I have a _very_ loose corner, and it bothers me.
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@3dprinting To explain how on earth I plan to run 6 motors, we need to consider power. The Ender 5 comes with a single LRS-350-24, which is _definitely_ going to fall short with all my upgrades. I _do_ have an HS-250-24 lying around, which would give me the power I need, but the Cheetah only has one input for power.
The solution? Double up with the original board! I can run one with the LRS, the other with the HS.
Sounds crazy? Yes, but let me explain.
31/n
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@3dprinting To explain how on earth I plan to run 6 motors, we need to consider power. The Ender 5 comes with a single LRS-350-24, which is _definitely_ going to fall short with all my upgrades. I _do_ have an HS-250-24 lying around, which would give me the power I need, but the Cheetah only has one input for power.
The solution? Double up with the original board! I can run one with the LRS, the other with the HS.
Sounds crazy? Yes, but let me explain.
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@3dprinting Given that the heated bed wants 220W, I can drive it from the original board with the HS-250-24. In addition to that, I can drive the E motor from that board, as the poor little 0.9 degree pancake I'm running there is 1A peak, which means something like 0.7A RMS. That's pushing my luck a tad, but _should_ fit into the HS.
32/n
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@3dprinting Given that the heated bed wants 220W, I can drive it from the original board with the HS-250-24. In addition to that, I can drive the E motor from that board, as the poor little 0.9 degree pancake I'm running there is 1A peak, which means something like 0.7A RMS. That's pushing my luck a tad, but _should_ fit into the HS.
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@3dprinting _Everything else_ can come off the Cheetah, run using the LRS-350-24. This gives me four steppers, one of which has two motor connections. That means I have a dedicated driver for _each_ Speedy, and then I can share the garbage Zs.
I am a _touch_ bottlenecked given such mighty motors here. The Cheetah has soldered-on TMC2209s, which have 2A peak current, while the Speedys can tolerate 2.5A peak. This will limit their performance some, but hey, this whole build is jank anyway.
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@3dprinting _Everything else_ can come off the Cheetah, run using the LRS-350-24. This gives me four steppers, one of which has two motor connections. That means I have a dedicated driver for _each_ Speedy, and then I can share the garbage Zs.
I am a _touch_ bottlenecked given such mighty motors here. The Cheetah has soldered-on TMC2209s, which have 2A peak current, while the Speedys can tolerate 2.5A peak. This will limit their performance some, but hey, this whole build is jank anyway.
33/n
@3dprinting Now, my original plan was to have a swingout electronics box with a 7 inch touchscreen I had lying around. Obviously with all these boards, this isn't really viable anymore.
However, with those feet, we now have an actual electronics well, which _should_ fit both the PSUs and boards, just. Then, the swingout electronics box can just house the BPi running Klipper and the screen.
Easier wiring, less designing, perfect!
34/n
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@3dprinting Now, my original plan was to have a swingout electronics box with a 7 inch touchscreen I had lying around. Obviously with all these boards, this isn't really viable anymore.
However, with those feet, we now have an actual electronics well, which _should_ fit both the PSUs and boards, just. Then, the swingout electronics box can just house the BPi running Klipper and the screen.
Easier wiring, less designing, perfect!
34/n
@3dprinting With that in mind, I need DIN rails, as well as a way to cut them. Luckily, we can crib lengths from the Mercury One project, and I do have a local source for DIN rail.
Guess who is _also_ the proud owner of a new reciprocating saw?
35/n
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@3dprinting With that in mind, I need DIN rails, as well as a way to cut them. Luckily, we can crib lengths from the Mercury One project, and I do have a local source for DIN rail.
Guess who is _also_ the proud owner of a new reciprocating saw?
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@3dprinting One rather _annoying_ aspect of the Mercury One is that their electronics enclosure (or well) has _zero_ documentation attached to it. No BOM, no instructions. While you _can_ get the CAD through their base Mercury One repository, this took me some searching to find.
I'll have to pull the CAD model to find out both what mounts they're using for their DIN rails, and how long said rails have to be. Nice to see this project _also_ apes awful Voron documentation practices.
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@3dprinting One rather _annoying_ aspect of the Mercury One is that their electronics enclosure (or well) has _zero_ documentation attached to it. No BOM, no instructions. While you _can_ get the CAD through their base Mercury One repository, this took me some searching to find.
I'll have to pull the CAD model to find out both what mounts they're using for their DIN rails, and how long said rails have to be. Nice to see this project _also_ apes awful Voron documentation practices.
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@3dprinting While I wait for filament, I finally got the idlers I needed to finish Stage 1. I haven't bothered putting the pulley on the X motor, or belting anything, because I'd have to un-belt everything for later Stages anyway.
37/n
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@3dprinting While I wait for filament, I finally got the idlers I needed to finish Stage 1. I haven't bothered putting the pulley on the X motor, or belting anything, because I'd have to un-belt everything for later Stages anyway.
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@3dprinting I also decided to try using my new reciprocating saw to cut some DIN rails. I wasn't particularly successful, as I simply could not workhold anything against this saw's might. Ended up using a hacksaw, some 3-in-1, and a lot of patience.
These are square and parallel, the camera just makes them look like they're not. Might change them later.
38/n
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@3dprinting I also decided to try using my new reciprocating saw to cut some DIN rails. I wasn't particularly successful, as I simply could not workhold anything against this saw's might. Ended up using a hacksaw, some 3-in-1, and a lot of patience.
These are square and parallel, the camera just makes them look like they're not. Might change them later.
38/n
@3dprinting One tip I got taught when doing tricky idler stacks involving shims: use a hex key to hold everything in place, then bolt down from the opposite end, displacing the key. This proved _especially_ useful here, as the thin shims I was using would have _certainly_ shifted otherwise.
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@3dprinting One tip I got taught when doing tricky idler stacks involving shims: use a hex key to hold everything in place, then bolt down from the opposite end, displacing the key. This proved _especially_ useful here, as the thin shims I was using would have _certainly_ shifted otherwise.
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@3dprinting I also discovered that I did, indeed, have two flex couplers for lead screws, so I installed them too. The Z motors have _slightly_ different shaft lengths, so I will likely have to adjust them a bit. They look very cool if you give them a little nudge, as the springy couplers make them wave.
I can't do the rest of the Z assembly, due to missing 10mm rods. Until I get all the stuff I'm missing, I can't really continue.
40/n
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@3dprinting I also discovered that I did, indeed, have two flex couplers for lead screws, so I installed them too. The Z motors have _slightly_ different shaft lengths, so I will likely have to adjust them a bit. They look very cool if you give them a little nudge, as the springy couplers make them wave.
I can't do the rest of the Z assembly, due to missing 10mm rods. Until I get all the stuff I'm missing, I can't really continue.
40/n
@3dprinting Mounted the Y rails while I wait for parts. This is a bit of quite confusing documentation from the Endorphin project. According to the pictures, the written instructions and the CAD model, the right rail goes on the _outside_ of the frame. According to the instructional video, on the _inside_. So which is it?
Opened an issue about it: https://github.com/endorphin3d/endorphin/issues/31
For now I followed the video, so it looks a bit goofy. Can always remount once I have the printed parts.
41/n
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@3dprinting Mounted the Y rails while I wait for parts. This is a bit of quite confusing documentation from the Endorphin project. According to the pictures, the written instructions and the CAD model, the right rail goes on the _outside_ of the frame. According to the instructional video, on the _inside_. So which is it?
Opened an issue about it: https://github.com/endorphin3d/endorphin/issues/31
For now I followed the video, so it looks a bit goofy. Can always remount once I have the printed parts.
41/n
@3dprinting The Stage 2 instructions also aren't particularly specific on _where_ the rails are supposed to go exactly. This is definitely not obvious, as each rail is non-trivially shorter than the extrusion it mounts on.
For anyone reading this as an #Endorphin guide, it's 15mm from the rear brackets.
I might just go sensorless on Y and design some 15mm spacers/stoppers. Spoppers? There should be more than enough space there to M3x8 and hammer nut something in place.
42/n
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@3dprinting The Stage 2 instructions also aren't particularly specific on _where_ the rails are supposed to go exactly. This is definitely not obvious, as each rail is non-trivially shorter than the extrusion it mounts on.
For anyone reading this as an #Endorphin guide, it's 15mm from the rear brackets.
I might just go sensorless on Y and design some 15mm spacers/stoppers. Spoppers? There should be more than enough space there to M3x8 and hammer nut something in place.
42/n
@3dprinting More filament arrived today, which means more work on the #Endorphin. Several things have happened today.
First, rail stuff. I moved one rail to the outside of the frame, then designed and added some rail stops. These are both spacers (ensuring the rails are symmetrically placed), but also sensorless homing targets. As per the meme of this build, they fasten with M5 hardware, because what else.
These are fun to bump with the carriages.
43/n
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@3dprinting More filament arrived today, which means more work on the #Endorphin. Several things have happened today.
First, rail stuff. I moved one rail to the outside of the frame, then designed and added some rail stops. These are both spacers (ensuring the rails are symmetrically placed), but also sensorless homing targets. As per the meme of this build, they fasten with M5 hardware, because what else.
These are fun to bump with the carriages.
43/n
@3dprinting Next, we finally have a second Y tensioner! This is a redesign by me, because the original was held in place by _one_ screw, which meant it was neither holding the corner together (like the original tensioner) nor particularly well-constrained (as it could rotate around that screw). My design fixes both.
44/n
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@3dprinting Next, we finally have a second Y tensioner! This is a redesign by me, because the original was held in place by _one_ screw, which meant it was neither holding the corner together (like the original tensioner) nor particularly well-constrained (as it could rotate around that screw). My design fixes both.
44/n
@3dprinting Third, as you probably noticed, I restored the top front extrusion. While I admit it gets in the way, I simply could not justify not having it when I realized that I couldn't reinforce the two side top extrusions with corner brackets. This is because the Y belts would have nowhere to go then, whoops.
I stuck some small corner brackets on it just to be sure though.
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