Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!
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@jon My first instinct was the train-replament-bus, as all train companies still claim busses are still trains when it comes to compensation rights.
But: I'd say option two as well as it is doable. And as even with a delay you will still follow the original challenge (and get the fastest time simply by being the first).
Also it makes for better TV and a cleaner narrative!
@Pepijn The only thing I cannot estimate: what if the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* a bus? 🤨
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Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?
It currently looks like it will be a train...
@jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm I don't have any deeper insight, but currently the Norrtåg customer-facing ticket sales site advertises also 7185 as "inte tillgänglig" (not available).
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Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?
It currently looks like it will be a train...
@jon In my corner of the Norrtåg network they use different rolling stock, but successive cancellations is not something I’ve seen.
They are also amazing at sorting replacement buses that work, FWIW.
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@Pepijn The only thing I cannot estimate: what if the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* a bus? 🤨
@jon But maybe then it's destiny. Part of the adventure/ narrative.
In essence I don't think the attempt becomes invalid when you take a rail replacement bus. It at best will have a small asterisk.
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@jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm I don't have any deeper insight, but currently the Norrtåg customer-facing ticket sales site advertises also 7185 as "inte tillgänglig" (not available).
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@jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm I don't have any deeper insight, but currently the Norrtåg customer-facing ticket sales site advertises also 7185 as "inte tillgänglig" (not available).
@jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Out of interest, were there many other passengers to Haparanda on the train? Are they also continuing to Boden and beyond, Kiruna, Luleå, or Umeå?
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@jon In my corner of the Norrtåg network they use different rolling stock, but successive cancellations is not something I’ve seen.
They are also amazing at sorting replacement buses that work, FWIW.
@stefanlindbohm @jon @tml @Jonas_Bostrom Unfortunately they do it all the time on the Haparanda line. Something deeply wrong there.
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Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?
It currently looks like it will be a train...
@jon @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm i feel for you, swedish rail is a big cluster f*ck… be prepare to change your plans
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@jon @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Out of interest, were there many other passengers to Haparanda on the train? Are they also continuing to Boden and beyond, Kiruna, Luleå, or Umeå?
@tml @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm There were a dozen or so on the cross border section
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon option 2 but if train is replaced by a bus without you knowing beforhand I'll say that's an acceptable exception.
Oh and you coule add a malus point system if any remplacement bus was taken at some point making taking bus bad option for racing but not invalidite the
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
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@jon Option 2! It‘s a record attempt after all, so give us some thrill
@sebwilken @jon Exactly!
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@stefanlindbohm @jon @tml @Jonas_Bostrom Unfortunately they do it all the time on the Haparanda line. Something deeply wrong there.
@sebwilken Might be the different rolling stock then. And the fact that they have a single trainset running back and forth. Lots more sensitive.
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Most important: can any people even better versed in the mess of Swedish rail that me tell me what the chances are that Norrtåg 7185 Haparanda - Boden - Luleå is going to ALSO be replaced by a bus?
It currently looks like it will be a train...
So I just called Norrtåg
There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus...
So how bad is this power line failure?
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So I just called Norrtåg
There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus...
So how bad is this power line failure?
@jon Can be a press of a button or a full replacement of equipment
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@jon Can be a press of a button or a full replacement of equipment
️@stefanlindbohm Is there any website that explains this in any way? If this were DB at least I would half know how serious it was!
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Right then, this post outlines my options
1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections
2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey
Input welcome! I lean towards 2)
https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/
@jon Do the Eurovision thing and the ask the public to vote on a paying number.
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So I just called Norrtåg
There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus...
So how bad is this power line failure?
@jon Trafikverket estimates that it will take all day to fix. Could of course be just a pessimistic estimate, but it doesn't sound promising for 7185.
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@stefanlindbohm Is there any website that explains this in any way? If this were DB at least I would half know how serious it was!
@jon The closest that is public is this below link.
It mentions an electrical fault between Boden - Murjek which is mainly on Malmbanan, but it includes the short section where Haparandabanan branches off. So maybe it’s the one?
Estimated resolved tonight, so that’s not promising if so…
https://www.trafikverket.se/trafikinformation/meddelanden/?Counties=25&Filtertype=trainMessage
