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  • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

    you can't deny how useful they are!!

    oatmeal@kolektiva.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @jplebreton I didn’t read yet but wonder if there’s a carbon footprint cost estimate to this flood of garbage (also I’d like to see how many exist only for demanding a monthly subscription).

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    • M morj_lecteur@h4.io

      @jplebreton Unfortunately contrary to what I thought, this does imly that LLMs boost programming productivity. That that productivity is spend on garbage (borderline spam) is a separate concern

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      #22

      @morj_lecteur @jplebreton imo, it only implies that LLMs boost programming output of garbage apps. The corresponding decrease in apps with significant usage could indicate users bouncing around from app to app, not finding anything better to settle on, but still displaced from long-time favorite apps as the whole software ecosystem loses stability to LLM cruft

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      • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

        you can't deny how useful they are!!

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        #23

        @jplebreton why buy the milk when the cow is free (for now)

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        • inglogamesdev@mastodon.gamedev.placeI inglogamesdev@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @jplebreton I dislike AI as much as the next person on Mastodon, but this graph shows absolutely nothing. The increased velocity in releases and the drop in reviews both began well before the "Agentic AI" region. Plus, even if you claim they're still related, correlation is not causation.

          There are a million reasons to avoid AI but this isn't one of them.

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          #24

          @IngloGamesDev @jplebreton it does indicate that app engagement is getting lower. So AI can't be the all magical wonder tool that it's hyped to be, or it'd offset this downward trend. AI is at best... Meh.

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          • M morj_lecteur@h4.io

            @jplebreton Unfortunately contrary to what I thought, this does imly that LLMs boost programming productivity. That that productivity is spend on garbage (borderline spam) is a separate concern

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            #25

            @morj_lecteur @jplebreton the same way a laxative boosts digestive productivity

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            • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

              you can't deny how useful they are!!

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              #26

              @jplebreton Log scale, please!

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              • dichotomiker@dresden.networkD dichotomiker@dresden.network

                @jplebreton Log scale, please!

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                #27
                @dichotomiker It kind of already is since it's a graph of rates.
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                • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                  @IngloGamesDev it's hard to prove that something isn't happening, and this is certainly well shy of what would be needed to "prove"

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                  #28

                  @jplebreton @IngloGamesDev perhaps the app store checks have become more leniant
                  that would be an easy way to get these results

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                  • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                    you can't deny how useful they are!!

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                    #29

                    @jplebreton

                    https://federate.social/@pgiulan/116709689035474167

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                      #30

                      @bri7 @oatmeal @jplebreton "Individual personal carbon footprint" is oil company propaganda - and that dismissal doesn't really apply here.

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                      • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                        you can't deny how useful they are!!

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                        #31

                        @jplebreton When I try to look project that claims to earn real money on vibe coding reddits, it's always shitty tools to help people to vibe code and sell an app / SAAS in a way or another.

                        I think it's really funny those are models for vibe coders thinking they are getting rich.

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                        • H hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com
                          @dichotomiker It kind of already is since it's a graph of rates.
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                          #32

                          @hypolite Good point. But the count of apps with significant usage (across all apps) is a different scale.

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                          • dichotomiker@dresden.networkD dichotomiker@dresden.network

                            @hypolite Good point. But the count of apps with significant usage (across all apps) is a different scale.

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                            #33
                            @dichotomiker Good catch as well!
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                            • H hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com
                              @dichotomiker Good catch as well!
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                              #34

                              @hypolite I let Claude make a redo. (what happened 2024?)

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                              • dichotomiker@dresden.networkD dichotomiker@dresden.network

                                @hypolite I let Claude make a redo. (what happened 2024?)

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                                #35
                                @dichotomiker And now that it went through AI it's meaningless.
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                                • H hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com
                                  @dichotomiker And now that it went through AI it's meaningless.
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                                  #36

                                  @hypolite sorry, won't do that again (probably)

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                                    #37

                                    @wendyhk nobody cares how you justify it to yourself, you're still making the world worse in multiple ways. go away.

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                                    • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                                      you can't deny how useful they are!!

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                                      #38

                                      @jplebreton Look at the amount of schlock floating around even when releases and usage were mid and reviews were at a peak. Now look at the Wall-E piles of garbage represented by current stats. Good luck finding the diamonds in that chaff, and even if you find one, will it be made by AI? I doubt it.

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                                      • T tnorinder@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @jplebreton corollary: utility is never neutral and always normative, thus never able to provide the thought-terminating cliche centrists want it to

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                                        #39

                                        @tnorinder @jplebreton Even if they do create a superhuman intelligence at some point, do we really want a cheap temu superman raised in a Vought lab by people like Peter Thiel?

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                                        • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                                          you can't deny how useful they are!!

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                                          #40

                                          @jplebreton can you put the link to this article, please? I would like to read it.

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